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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    When the 306 was new it was renown for its chassis.
    Now it's renown for breaking down.
    The initial halo of love was once again destroyed by the the inability of the French to make eletrical systems last last the life of the rest of the vehicle - or should I say the life we expect a vehicle to last.


    I tend not to recommend Italian or French cars because of the known faults - Punto's shouldn't need new suspension after 60k miles in this day and age for example. Both nationalities seem to have a willful desire to make good cars badly - or indeed bad cars in the same way.

    To dismiss a car on looks or simply because it is German is a folly. Though many have their own inherant problems, their positives usually outweight the opposite.

    Of course there is always and exception to the rule.
    The 206 would be bad simply because of that damn gawping maw they call a grill.
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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    Quote Originally Posted by ionicle View Post
    it has a new engine though
    so that fixes the overheating issue
    and if tuned and maintained correctly, the rest of the issues could be overcome too..



    insurance will suck on this, being 18, and male, and in a badly rated postcode

    1700 quid i paid for my 1.4 litere 16v automatic, turquoise vauxhall corsa, for a year...



    nah, dont want no german tat
    and i dont like the 205, the 206, 306, 106 all look far better...
    insurance is about more than groups. some cars are accident magnets

    and corsas, since so many new drivers drive them (blame BSM for this), have a *dreadful* accident record with insurers

    almost any other 1.4 would be cheaper for you

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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    Quote Originally Posted by ionicle View Post
    nah, dont want no german tat
    and i dont like the 205, the 206, 306, 106 all look far better...
    I see you have much still to learn about cars..

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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    Quote Originally Posted by ionicle View Post
    wouldnt have a fiat if it was the last car on earth

    dont they break every like 5 mins?

    and i must say, that lotus does look nice

    but a bit too 80'sy for me

    i like my hatchbacks
    smaller and easier to fit into parking spaces
    I had a punto for 3 years and had 0 problems with it
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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    i had a seicento for 10 months and spent hundreds on the piece of crap

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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    Quote Originally Posted by ionicle View Post
    it has a new engine though
    so that fixes the overheating issue
    and if tuned and maintained correctly, the rest of the issues could be overcome too..
    Sorry, I completely disagree.

    See this man's eloquent reply for my views;

    Quote Originally Posted by Vimeous View Post
    When the 306 was new it was renown for its chassis.
    Now it's renown for breaking down.
    The initial halo of love was once again destroyed by the the inability of the French to make eletrical systems last last the life of the rest of the vehicle - or should I say the life we expect a vehicle to last.


    I tend not to recommend Italian or French cars because of the known faults - Punto's shouldn't need new suspension after 60k miles in this day and age for example. Both nationalities seem to have a willful desire to make good cars badly - or indeed bad cars in the same way.

    To dismiss a car on looks or simply because it is German is a folly. Though many have their own inherant problems, their positives usually outweight the opposite.

    Of course there is always and exception to the rule.
    The 206 would be bad simply because of that damn gawping maw they call a grill.
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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    Quote Originally Posted by MadduckUK View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    if you want something unreliable but fun, you can get an mgf for less than half the price

    or a tvr chimera for only 50% more ^_^

    course, insurance will suck
    Or an MX5 for more fun than an MGF but with added reliability
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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    I have driven an MGF it was totally rubbish, I have also driven an MX5..... fantastic
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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

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    I have also driven an MX5..... fantastic
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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    How can you disagree that a new engine wouldn't have solved overheating and electrical issues? Of course, if it's been done BADLY there will be some

    Look at it. It's a longdituinaly mounted YB. I don't, not for one second, think for that the original Pugeot Radiator, Engine management or running gear has anything to do with that car! If it drives the front wheels, it'll only be in addition to the rear ones (short of a SABB gearbox).

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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    so you lot think its RWD?

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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    For me, although I'm 2 years away from thinking about driving one of these or these. The Second is more practical, but i'd rather have the first one

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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    An 18 year old to drive that 306 Cosworth conversion ? The sevicing and maintenance on something this unique is likely to cost what you're used to paying for insurance for the year. And to get quotes for insurance you'd need to get used to:
    1) Spontaneous laughter
    2) Comments of "Is this FoneJacker?"
    3) Prices around the same as a 3 bed semi-detached house in a nice area

    And it's all for a reason, over the years i've know 6/7 18 year olds buy powerful cars (Escort RS Turbo, Astra GTE etc.) and I can only think of one that didn't write it off in the first 6 months.

    Also, if it ain't RWD then I would imagine with 400bhp the 0-60 to be around 25secs, or in other terms 19 secs of wheelspin and then 6 secs to 60
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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    Quote Originally Posted by ionicle View Post
    so you lot think its RWD?
    Look at the bulge out into the footwell under the gearstick (and the lack of trim around that area). Looks to me like it's had the Sierra transmission tunnel welded in. So yes. RWD or 4x4.

    That on top of the way the engine is facing.

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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    Quote Originally Posted by ionicle View Post
    more specifically my dream car, for the moment anyway

    http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/660859.htm right there
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    Re: 18 year olds dream car

    there is something about a cossie pug that doesn't sit right.. like a ralliart citroen xara
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