AMD - Piledriver chitchat

[DanceswithUnix]

That suggests that at least part of the test requires decent single-threaded performance.

Or that it requires L3 cache to run well. Probably a bit of both.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Overall, we have converted 30 raw image files from a Nikon D800 with a total size of 1.23 GiByte.

The video is in German but indicates they generated 30 jpegs at the same resolution as the RAW files. They used sRGB and 87% quality for the jpegs.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The test can't be that heavily threaded - there's no way an FX6350 (6 cores @ 3.9GHz) should match an FX8150 (8 cores @ 3.6GHz) in a well threaded test, nor should the 4770k be performing better with HT off than with HT on.

Similarly the Athlon X4 740 seems to perform quite poorly - sure, it's only a 3.2GHz part but with 4 threads it should outperform the Pentium on most well threaded tasks. That suggests that at least part of the test requires decent single-threaded performance.

Or that it requires L3 cache to run well. Probably a bit of both.

It appears LR does not really use HT and core scaling is poor above 4 cores. It wouldn't surprise me the huge L3 caches on the highest ranked chips are why they are faster.

Edit!!

I posted this in the OcUK photo section,and a number are trying to find fault with the review probably since the AMD chips are faster than certain CPUs like the Core i7 920.

[scaryjim]

Or that it requires L3 cache to run well. Probably a bit of both.

The 6800K does alright - just about equal with a Phenom II X4 980 - so the lack of L3 cache doesn't seem to be a huge issue. That said, there are 3 generations between those chips, so perhaps we should be sad that the 6800K isn't soundly beating the Phenom II. It definitely says something that I genuinely looked at the chart and thought that the 6800k matching a Phenom II was a decent showing....

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The 6800K does alright - just about equal with a Phenom II X4 980 - so the lack of L3 cache doesn't seem to be a huge issue. That said, there are 3 generations between those chips, so perhaps we should be sad that the 6800K isn't soundly beating the Phenom II. It definitely says something that I genuinely looked at the chart and thought that the 6800k matching a Phenom II was a decent showing....

Two generations and remember Llano was using the same cores as the Phenom II with some modifications.

However,look at where the Haswell Core i3 is!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Just saw this A10 7850K system on HUKD:

http://www.box.co.uk/Cube_AMD_Battle...1_1593710.html

Its actually quite good value considering the parts used. PSU is a lowish end FSP though.

[watercooled]

PSU is a lowish end FSP though.

That still makes it approx. 1.5 million times better than the crap you get bolted on to many budget systems...

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

That still makes it approx. 1.5 million times better than the crap you get bolted on to many budget systems...

Yeah,but for the price the system actually not too bad,and has a decent motherboard.

[shaithis]

Just saw this A10 7850K system on HUKD:

http://www.box.co.uk/Cube_AMD_Battle...1_1593710.html

I guess they had a load of those cases lying around......fugly

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I guess they had a load of those cases lying around......fugly

About par for cheapo systems!!

At least the cooling layout looks good and also a £90 motheRboard too,2400MHZ DDR3,SSD and 1TB HDD.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It looks like VIA is introducing a competitor to BT and Jaguar:

http://wccftech.com/via-demos-isaiah...#ixzz36e7f8H5P

Edit!!

It appears a 970 based AM3+ mATX motherboard did exist:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c03117539

[HalloweenJack]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M3970AM-65...p2054897.l4275


for you cat

[watercooled]

That news about VIA is interesting! Their Quadcore parts also looked fairly interesting but never seemed to make it into pretty much anything you could actually buy. But then again, while the Nano architecture was certainly impressive and was very competitive with Bonnell, it didn't compete too well with Bobcat in terms of performance or efficiency. So by the time Quadcore arrived, the market had moved on from when Nano was first released.

I don't know what the author of that article is babbling on about in the fear-mongering 'opinion' part!

If nearly every other company is starting to enter the x86 market with low end processors

So, that would be: VIA. Since no-one else has or is likely to get an x86 license. And one small competitor re-entering a market they previously had a higher market share in, is really going to harm competition at the high end.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M3970AM-65...p2054897.l4275


for you cat

Its the one from the HP computer. Its rather fail that no 970 based mATX retail motherboards existed.

[DanceswithUnix]

So, that would be: VIA. Since no-one else has or is likely to get an x86 license. And one small competitor re-entering a market they previously had a higher market share in, is really going to harm competition at the high end.

Yep, that opinion piece is pretty dire. ARM is eating share at the bottom, I think at the top end we are just seeing churn from companies buying new machines because the old ones are 3-4 years old, out of warranty and into hence written off and need replacing. This sounds to me like VIA are simply doing a regular refresh and so keeping much where they were before.

If they start turning up in cheap Chromebooks I might raise an eyebrow.

Edit to add: Did they ever sort out the S3 drivers? Not used them for years.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

There seems to be a new 970 based motherboard for around £66 from MSI:

http://www.dabs.com/products/msi-970...m_content=AW00
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/970_GA...#hero-overview

It not only looks nice but has 8X/8X Crossfire and even upgraded audio.

Hopefully,it will mean better quality VRMs too as it appears to be an 8 phase job.