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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    The main issue with Corsair,is there are three revisions for each memory SKU,so you can't tell what you are getting when you order it - it could single ranked,dual ranked,Samsung,Micron or Hynix modules. With other companies although specifications can change there is more chance you can do some research and get something which should work OK.

    Edit!!

    Also it would not surprise me one bit if in a few years,the memory manufacturers get caught again for price fixing,etc. I remember a decade ago when I built my first Core2 based rig,DDR2 prices also shot up like this,and 4GB of DDR2 cost me £200ish and that was actually cheap for the time. Then they got fined for a previous case of price fixing and the prices interestingly got much better within not a huge amount of time,IIRC!
    Scan can be especially unpredictable with the revisions. I bought one set of ram, and got a later revision; a year or two later I bought the exact same set of ram and got the first revision (that happened to be a slightly different shade of blue)

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    I have fallen into the “order straight from crucial” habit with RAM. Although it’s been a while since I bought new stuff.

    Just checked over there and... hoooweeee £200 for 2x16GB of high speed DDR4

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by pp05 View Post
    Is yours the black edition. A lot of value still if you want to use windows 7.

    For me it's R1200 65w vs 8350 125w. I'm leaning towards pairing r1200 with a 1050ti for now.
    Pretty sure all the FX chips were black edition, just at the time the 8350 was top of the range so I figured it got you the best binned silicon.

    I wouldn't touch Windows 7 any more though, the world has moved on.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    ... For Ryzen 3 you are limited to 2666MHZ DDR4 anyway ...
    Really? How come? I thought all Ryzen chips were fully unlocked and OCable - it's a bit odd if Ryzen 3 is somehow locked on the RAM settings....

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Really? How come? I thought all Ryzen chips were fully unlocked and OCable - it's a bit odd if Ryzen 3 is somehow locked on the RAM settings....
    Looking at the AMD website it does say 2667MHz ram for the 1200, but it says the same for 1800X as well.

    https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-3-1200

    Edit: Found a review where they overclocked a 1200 to use fast-ish (3200) ram

    Last edited by DanceswithUnix; 05-11-2017 at 10:59 AM.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Hm, seems Ebuyer have reduced some Ryzen prices:
    1500X @ £120
    1600 @ £136
    1600X @ £166
    1700 @ £207
    1700X @ 228
    1800X @ £307

    Most of these found via deals on HUKD:
    https://www.hotukdeals.com/tag/computers-new

    Unsure if they are misprices or the start of an official price cut.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    Hm, seems Ebuyer have reduced some Ryzen prices:
    1500X @ £120
    1600 @ £136
    1600X @ £166
    1700 @ £207
    1700X @ 228
    1800X @ £307

    Most of these found via deals on HUKD:
    https://www.hotukdeals.com/tag/computers-new

    Unsure if they are misprices or the start of an official price cut.
    Amazon too.


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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    ... Edit: Found a review where they overclocked a 1200 to use fast-ish (3200) ram ...
    Yeah, so did I after I asked that. All Ryzen processors "officially" top out at 2666MHz, but we all know they benefit from faster RAM improving the inter-CCX communication speed.

    The review I read basically said "Yes, you could run a Ryzen 3 with faster RAM and it would improve performance, but given the extra cost it's probably not worth it". Thing is I see no point running one with memory slower than 2666MHz, since we know it would reduce performance, and once you're looking at 2666MHz DDR4 the jump to 3000/3200 really isn't that big...

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    ... Unsure if they are misprices or the start of an official price cut.
    Find out soon enough, just ordered a 1500X for my stepson

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    I was reading that quite a few am3/3+ heatsinks are compatible with AM4 which is a bonus. My current one looks like it will also be compatible.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Find out soon enough, just ordered a 1500X for my stepson
    Why didn't you get the 1600??


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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Why didn't you get the 1600??
    Because the 1500X was already over my planned budget

    He's not an overclocker or tweaker, and he doesn't do any serious productivity work. I can just about absorb the extra money for the 1500X over the 1300X. Stretching to the 1600 would've meant compromising on either the motherboard or RAM.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Because the 1500X was already over my planned budget

    He's not an overclocker or tweaker, and he doesn't do any serious productivity work. I can just about absorb the extra money for the 1500X over the 1300X. Stretching to the 1600 would've meant compromising on either the motherboard or RAM.
    More the case if you had bought the Ryzen 5 1600 and an Asus motherboard,you would have gotten two game codes,for some major games like Destiny 2 which you could have sold off.

    I would have bought the Ryzen 5 1600 myself if it were not for the case Ryzen seems to suck with FO4. Even ARMA 3 which is single thread dependent seems OK on Ryzen,ie,its around Haswell level,but I still cannot figure out why Fallout 4 seems more like SB/IB in the game. I also like Skyrim too,and I can't figure out why AMD hasn't noticed this especially since they are collaborating with Bethesda now. By extension it might mean ESO is also has a problem too(different engine though).


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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Aaaargh!

    AMD Ryzen 5 1500X Quad Core AM4 CPU/Processor with Wraith Spire 95W cooler

    Unfortunately, the above item is currently out of stock.

    The item(s) has now been removed from your order and you have been fully refunded. Please note; refunds can take 3 to 5 working days to clear.
    So either I wasn't quick enough or it was a mis-price. Very frustrating.

    EDIT: Oddly, ebuyer have pulled all their listings for Ryzen 5 and 7 from their website...
    Last edited by scaryjim; 06-11-2017 at 02:47 PM.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Aaaargh!



    So either I wasn't quick enough or it was a mis-price. Very frustrating.

    EDIT: Oddly, ebuyer have pulled all their listings for Ryzen 5 and 7 from their website...
    Amazon had the Ryzen 5 1600 on pre-order until earlier in the day.

    OTH,if you have Prime you can get the Ryzen 5 1400 for £110:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-1.../dp/B06XKWT8J4


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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Hmmm, it might be worth a prime trial for that....

    I just can't help wondering if the ebuyer & amazon pricing is indicative of a general price cut coming up (maybe to realign prices for new APUs?). Decisions decisions....!

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