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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    Quote Originally Posted by xodianbarr View Post
    I wouldnt say 'ALL'. It depends if the online activation servers are still accessible. (For any that require online activation).
    Well, for sure. But can you actually name an example? Genuine question there - I was careful with what I said because I couldn't think of any games for which that was the case.

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    Not without digging out old EA games and testing them. But then the last game i bought requiring online activation (pre steam days) was Battlefield 2012, and i took it back. (I didnt even have internet at the time so i couldnt even activate it!).

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    Quote Originally Posted by xodianbarr View Post
    Yeah i can. :/ Why do you think piracy is so popular?
    I pretty much agreed with you, right up to that last point.

    This is a case of which is the chicken, and which the egg.

    Piracy is popular because there are a lot of people that, given the chance to get something for nothing, or next to nothing, will take it.

    But this is also a phenomenon that goes back a long way. I remember games of leapfrog between software developers and copying siftware developers back in the days of the Apple II, and "bit copier" software that got round things like game protection that usec half-tracking to override the stanard OS control of stepper motors in Apple's 143KB (and yes, I mean kilobyte) 5.25 inch disk drives. And that that point, we're talking about a basic computer costing £1000, and by the time you spec'd it up to something useful, probably double that. And at late 1980's prices, which put the computer at about a half to a third of the price of the well-specified and brand new Capri 2.8i I bought, round about then.

    Computers were expensive, the PC hadn't even been invented, and households with "proper" computers were rare. Yet, piracy was rife.

    Hell, piracy was rife in the audio world when the compact cassette machine was invented, and I've still got some music collections thst went from LP to reel-to-reel tape (Revox in my case, though Ferrograph were popular too, and I even had a Tandberg deck). So that's taking it back to the 1960s.

    Nah, obnoxious DRM is down to the levels of piracy, IMHO, not the other way round.


    That said, as someone that's bought all (or at least, ahem, almost all) my games, ovrr the years, I REALLY resent the likes of online authentication and even worse, mandatory always-on connections.

    I've been playing, for example, EA games since EA came into existance, and if I stacked the boxed games I still have (not just EA), it would be a pile from floor to ceiling, probably more than once. I've been playing computer games for something like 45 years, and spend one hell of a lot of money on games. And this kind of attitude, and authentican servers, has driven me away. Oh well. Life goes on, sans EA.

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    Quote Originally Posted by xodianbarr View Post
    Not without digging out old EA games and testing them. But then the last game i bought requiring online activation (pre steam days) was Battlefield 2012, and i took it back. (I didnt even have internet at the time so i couldnt even activate it!).
    I'm guessing you mean Battlefield 2142, but that was virtually online-only so it didn't have a single player.

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    Piracy is popular because there are a lot of people that, given the chance to get something for nothing, or next to nothing, will take it.
    Im sorry to say i disagree. Yes, there are a lot of people who given the chance would take something for free, but you cant generalise against all pirates in that way. As with anything there is a hardcore of people who would steal your grandmother if given the chance, but they are in the minority. Most pirates do it because its a) really easy to get hold of, and b) digital content is massively overpriced. Before anyone starts, i dont want to hear about the 'poor developers who get a modest sum', that may be true, but thats only because the software houses pay them so. Another point to make is that if piracy was eliminated, do you really think it would result in any large increase in sales for digital content? If you ask me, people will still only go out and buy what they can afford. So they certainly wouldn't rush out and start buying these products they previously copyrighted. If digital content was more affordable, people on the whole would be less likely to pirate it.

    As for DRM being down to piracy.. No one is arguing that - of course it is. But its only because EA wants to protect its profits. Unfortunately at the expense of the consumer in this case. Remember, that EA is just a business trying to make money. It has no morals, it has no scruples, and has but one agenda - to make money.

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    I'm guessing you mean Battlefield 2142, but that was virtually online-only so it didn't have a single player.
    Yeah, lol that IS what i meant. But i couldnt remember the name! I never got to play it of course, so i didnt know it was online only. I prefer one player games anyways.

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    According to reports EA have been less than truthful about the fact that the servers are required for in-game calculations and off line mode would require significant engineering.

    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013...not-necessary/

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    http://www.geek.com/articles/games/m...tely-20130314/

    EA are really making themselves look bad.

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    @ mcmiller. They've been doing that quite some time now.. :/

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    Well my own personal boycott to never buy another EA product! Although I'm sure they will still treat their customers the same as they sell fifa by the bucket load.

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    Big companies generally care little about hurting the little guy. That is quite often their downfall. Game is an example of this. They weren't great with customers, and didn't much care to listen. But they failed to realise that if you continually annoy all the little guys, sooner or later there'll be no little guys left. The next big thing is always round the corner, and if you aren't loyal to your customers, they will flock to you it and leave you high and dry!

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    So glad i didnt buy it.

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    so glad i bought it. loving this game personally

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    so glad i bought it. loving this game personally

    Im glad someone is. Maxis need all the support they can get right now!

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    Re: Sim City: Ruined by DRM?

    Has anyone seen this yet ??

    I would have bought this game if it did not have the always online bit, oh well more money for the weekend then

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