War On Scientology

[directhex]

legally, i think they're a "non-profit sect"

though they were named as a cult in the 80s by a prominent judge

[directhex]

money talks doesn't it?

interesting you should say that - the youtube account of one of scientology's fiercest critics was shut down the same week scientology paid for a big new official youtube channel

[TAKTAK]

legally, i think they're a "non-profit sect"

though they were named as a cult in the 80s by a prominent judge

judge judy?

[Rosaline]

The teenager refused to back down, quoting a 1984 high court ruling from Mr Justice Latey, in which he described the Church of Scientology as a "cult" which was "corrupt, sinister and dangerous".

High Court judge, tbh.

Sadly the wiki article on cults doesn't have a nice list like often seen in university student handbooks, but one look at a common list of cult identifiers from such things clearly shows scientology to fit the description.

I'd better go check up on this story on enturbulation, but I strongly suspect that this anon will have a lot of free legal support and an easy defence indeed

[educatedfool]

money talks doesn't it?

The way of the world.

[Marcos]

Scientology is just as valid a religion as Christianity.

They are both based on texts that describe fictitious unverifiable events and they both defy basic reasoning, in short they are both full of people kidding themselves and being taken advantage of by peoples in the upper echelons of the organisations who know the truth.

That truth being of course that the whole thing is a scam.

Pretty much

actually, i have a theory that Scientology might actually be a good thing, but im going to do more research first

[mediaboy]

The problem with lists of what a cult is... is that many RELGIONS also fit the bill.

Check out Christianity

[directhex]

christians will tell you, eagerly, about their beliefs

scientologists will charge you a 5-6 figure sum first

that's the difference. please, don't let this fall into another pointless "religion si teh devil" argument - because the church of scientology is NOT a religion (and was ruled as such in a 1999 rejection of charitable status).

the core beliefs of scientology are public - but any scientologist is trained to deny those beliefs exist if asked, many "low level" scientologists don't even know them (because they ARE seemingly insane), and anyone who follows those beliefs (in aliens, yes) without paying their membership fees is subject to... disapproval... by the cult.

i'm forced to quote myself AGAIN, because the same people AGAIN are using the cult as an opportunity to invoke their boring "argh! religion" rhetoric.

key error:

protests against the church of scientology are NOT an attempt at religious commentary. those protesting encourage and support "splinters" from the central church of scientology which do not charge 6-7 figures for "enlightenment" and have lack the church's record of killing people - for example, "freezone" is scientology without the creepy money-grabbing cult part, and is encouraged as much as any religion

protests against the church of scientology are against a corporation which masquerades as a religion in order to harm others, gain gross profits, avoid taxation (far beyond the benefits granted to other religions), and a general belief that religion should not and cannot have a price tag

no imam or priest will charge you tens of thousands before telling you about their beliefs

say what you want about the validity of religion, but that's nothing to do with the protests - they're protesting the corporation, not the religious beliefs (silly as they may seem to some)

[TheAnimus]

hex you really dislike scientology don't ya, careful they might come after you!

Whats really, really worrying here is that someone, who was part of a peaceful protest, is been summoned. For using a valid word to describe the organisation, which was deemed un-acceptable by a police superintendant.

When was it they where given the power to ban words? Utter madness, a waste of tax payers money. We always joke about the city of london police, espesually watching in the fine line 3 cars (2 fans, 1 fast response) and about 8 police offer tackle a begger by the monument..... Meanwhile outside of the city, serious crime goes hours without any response.

[MadduckUK]

The way of the world.

im believing that more and more

[Blitzen]

Scientology is a cult yes.

Then again.
Islam/Christianity/Hinduism/the list goes on, are also cults aswell as far as i am concerned.

They are all nothing more than clubs where people get together and talk about things that arent true. They then do their damn best to drill out to every poor sod that will listen.

[yamangman]

christians will tell you, eagerly, about their beliefs

scientologists will charge you a 5-6 figure sum first

that's the difference. please, don't let this fall into another pointless "religion si teh devil" argument - because the church of scientology is NOT a religion (and was ruled as such in a 1999 rejection of charitable status).

the core beliefs of scientology are public - but any scientologist is trained to deny those beliefs exist if asked, many "low level" scientologists don't even know them (because they ARE seemingly insane), and anyone who follows those beliefs (in aliens, yes) without paying their membership fees is subject to... disapproval... by the cult.

i'm forced to quote myself AGAIN, because the same people AGAIN are using the cult as an opportunity to invoke their boring "argh! religion" rhetoric.

In your opinion, quite honestly.

[Agent]

In your opinion, quite honestly.

I find the thought that someone's post may be their opinion, quite frankly, shocking.

[CaseyV9]

Pretty much

actually, i have a theory that Scientology might actually be a good thing, but im going to do more research first

Hope this helps:

BBC Media Player

[iranu]

actually, i have a theory that Scientology might actually be a good thing, but im going to do more research first

Just google the name "Lisa Mcpherson" it will tell you all you need to know about this dangerous cult.

I'm shocked that high ranking police officers have been got to but that is actually on of the CoS modus operandi. They aim to get their people in positions of power.

[TAKTAK]

On the risk of being hunted down, they are weird.....

just search for:

operation snow white
operation freakout

and then theres things like:

accounts of Hubbard discussing his intent to start a religion for profit

Hubbard, formulated the "Fair Game Law", which states how to deal with people who interfere with Scientology's activities. These problematic people, called suppressive persons, could be considered "fair game" for retaliation:

A Suppressive Person or Group becomes fair game. By FAIR GAME is meant, may not be further protected by the codes and disciplines or the rights of a Scientologist.

their definition of enemy: ENEMY — SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued, lied to or destroyed

Attempts to legally force search engines such as Google and Yahoo to omit any webpages critical of Scientology from their search engines

their "Attack the Attacker" policy

so put lightly.... nut jobs.....