Glitter's in the Gary

[mediaboy]

Just to clarify my earlier post, I was under the impression that peadophilia covered everything from child rape to child pornography, so therefore should have a wider range of punishments than the punishment for rape - which is only one thing. However, please correct me if I am wrong. I hesitate to search for a definition in google as I'm sure that I would get some not very pleasant things.

Koolpc - your latest post saying that a male would use tampons only seems to me that you are suggesting you are going to inject some female hormones into the body to force them to become a transexual. If you are going to make statements like that, at least make statements that dont infer a sex change, as you can have female paedophiles just as easily as male ones.

[Clunk]

I have a daughter and it is scary to know these sickos are prowling our streets, etc. If i caught one i would make sure he had to use tampons for the rest of his life!!

Death by BONGO!

[G4Z]

Its sounds a bit like he would rape one if he came across one, maybe...?

[Koolpc]

No, rip his tackle off.

[mediaboy]

Yes... but that only makes him an enuch.. not a women.

There IS a difference...

[Koolpc]

Yes... but that only makes him an enuch.. not a women.

There IS a difference...

Lol. Thing is, maybe i would let the bastard bleed to death first anyway.

When you have a child, you get very protective. You see the world in a different light. Nothing matters more than the well-being of your child. Its ok for those on here who like pedo's to say they should be treated fairly etc but at the end of the day, my child and other childrens safety is paramount and if that means stopping these perverts from offending again and again and again then i am all for castrating an offending Pedo sicko.

Just look at Glitter's expression and you can tell he is an evil sicko who can't wait to offend again. He will not be safe on our streets and he knows it.

[G4Z]

Its ok for those on here who like pedo's to say they should be treated fairly etc but at the end of the day, my child.. bleh beh bleh

'Who like pedo's?'

Are you for real?????

Will you also give over with mentioning you have a kid, you said it in about 6 posts so we bloody know, ok? Why exactly you think that gives you a monopoly on deciding morality with regard to child abuse I don't know.

[Twigman]

Gary is Mr and Mrs Glitter's child though...

What happens if another child at school tried to have sex with your child? Would that be ok? That would be someone else's child...

I don't really see how castration would solve the problem to be honest? That's a genuine question. How would that stop reoffending?

[Koolpc]

'Who like pedo's?'

Are you for real?????

Will you also give over with mentioning you have a kid, you said it in about 6 posts so we bloody know, ok? Why exactly you think that gives you a monopoly on deciding morality with regard to child abuse I don't know.

Well, you goody guys all think Pedo's should be treated fair and square!! Just like the poor kids who have been treated 'Fair and square' by an evil pedo. Get real boyo, the majority of people in the world would like to see offending Pedo's punished hard. Take your blinkers off and look into the real world and not from behind your PC monitor!

I think it is twice that i have mentioned i have a child. I will mention it a thousand times if i have to.

When you have a child you will see the world in a different light. Fact.

[G4Z]

That's more of an if for me as to be honest I don't want one.

Regardless, I have never said that child abusers should not be punished and I never said the punishment shouldn't fit the crime. However I have these things called 'principals' you see, and one of those is that I don't think it's right to kill or torture other people. There are a number of reasons for this, but I think the biggest one is simply that I am an enlightened civilised individual. If you can't see why its not ok to torture and kill people and why if we did it would make us every bit as evil as the target then I doubt I am going to be able to explain this to you.

Child abuse is a crime, paedophilia is an attraction to children which is in fact not a crime, much as you might wish it were. Now the way we deal with crimes has evolved over hundreds of years, and I for one don't want to see it radically changed for the worse due to hysteria and I don't want to see the idea of thought crime introduced because of paedophilia. I also happen to think that an attempt to address the problem via psychiatric help, drugs or anything else that might prove effective is worth perusing over the less reliable method of exterminating them all. Fact is this problem will be with society forever, we need better ways to deal with it than what we have now, and I don't think your 'solutions' will help the situation any.

[staffsMike]

I don't really see how castration would solve the problem to be honest? That's a genuine question. How would that stop reoffending?

Well I havn't read anything on it for a while, but I believe they have been using chemical castration to suppress the sexual urge, chopping them off probably has the same effect lol

Without the sexual urge it is believed and proven to a point that they will no longer feel the need to have sex and thus not persue children.

As I mentioned already though, sexual urge might not be the end of the story with these people. Which is why people should start recognising that there could be (not saying there is) a far deeper mental condition to certain childer abusers and paedophiles.

I do think it should be done to all offenders and anyone who is good enough to volounteer the fact they are a paedophile but will it fix the problem.. doubt it.

Of course we would all love to the chance to stop one of these sick ****s getting to a child. How much would we love to catch them trying and take out some personal justice (self satisfaction) on them. But that is a blind mans answer to a very difficult problem he cannot see clearly if at all.

[Twigman]

I really really wish I could find that web comic I mentioned earlier in the thread.
Blah blah blah I have children therefore my opinion is more valid than yours.

[directhex]

Lol. Thing is, maybe i would let the bastard bleed to death first anyway.

When you have a child, you get very protective. You see the world in a different light. Nothing matters more than the well-being of your child. Its ok for those on here who like pedo's to say they should be treated fairly etc but at the end of the day, my child and other childrens safety is paramount and if that means stopping these perverts from offending again and again and again then i am all for castrating an offending Pedo sicko.

Just look at Glitter's expression and you can tell he is an evil sicko who can't wait to offend again. He will not be safe on our streets and he knows it.

your strawman is offensive.

nobody here "likes pedos". nobody supports child molestation. claiming otherwise is a foaming at the mouth attempt to gain support for your position.

what you have is some people who support the rule of law, and a measured response to difficult problems.

just because YOU don't believe in either the laws of man or the laws of God, doesn't mean people who DO are in some way pro-paedophile

you've DELIBERATELY avoided mentioning replies to any topic that doesn't go your way, simply screaming "won't someone think of the chiiiiiiildren? ". you refuse to admit that people attracted to children will exist REGARDLESS OF POTENTIAL PUNISHMENT FROM ACTING OUT, and you refuse to state, on record, that if your own child were abused (e.g. by a teacher) that you'd support your own "get them before they can hurt people" stance on someone with a MUCH higher chance of offending, i.e. a victim of child abuse.

if you want to convince people that your attitude has merit, you need to prove that it can be applied properly in *all* cases. the REALITY is that victims are likely offenders, and the REALITY is that those who are attracted to children will always exist. what's your catch-all, well-considered view on how to address both those problems at once, beyond your "castarte the lot" response to one specific pervert?

nobody here thinks paul gadd should be allowed to abuse children. claiming otherwise is lying to support your position, because you can't support it any other way. and no, "think of the chiiiiiiiiiiiildren" isn't a valid reply

[Koolpc]

I really really wish I could find that web comic I mentioned earlier in the thread.
Blah blah blah I have children therefore my opinion is more valid than yours.

Thats wrong. I have not said that my opinion is more valid because i have a child, just that it does make you more aware of a small persons safety etc. It is a real eye opener.

I know a lot on here say we should let the law do its job and let them get a fair trial etc but the law is not working. The law needs to be changed.

I believe in bringing back hanging and corporal punishment, hard labour etc. Prisoners have an easy life. Pedo's are the lowest of the low. They feed on innocent little children. The get off on seeing images of children in obscene pictures etc.

It is a strong subject. We all have opinions. Mine are strong. I know it has upset some people on here but i feel very strongly about it, not just because i have a gorgeous daughter (Mentioned again GAZ!) but because i care about society and how lax the law is and how these pedo's seem to be growing worldwide with horrendous actions.

A pedo can only be punished if he breaks the law. This is then a step too far as some poor child somewhere has had to suffer for that. There is no other way to stop pedos but to catch them in the act. It is then that the punishment should be hard and a warning to others.

It won't stop them, it won't drive them underground as that is where they are now. It 'may' make them think twice before they 'act' on thier thoughts.

[Koolpc]

your strawman is offensive.

nobody here "likes pedos". nobody supports child molestation. claiming otherwise is a foaming at the mouth attempt to gain support for your position.

Well, its the way a lot of you seem to be are always coming down on the side of these pedo's. Saying they can't help themselves, it is all mental etc. They are scum and don't deserve to be treated like 'Humans'. They are vile animals that need to be taught a hard lesson in how to treat those that are defensless, innocent and vulnerable.

what you have is some people who support the rule of law, and a measured response to difficult problems.

just because YOU don't believe in either the laws of man or the laws of God, doesn't mean people who DO are in some way pro-paedophile

The law is a joke and you know it. It needs to change. Too many thugs etc get off lightly these days and it proves when they keep re-offending again and again that the law is pathetic and weak.

I believe in a lot of things but our country is going to the dogs and one of the reasons why is because of the way people are getting away lightly on the crimes they commit. You like others, come across a pro-pedo because the way in which you defend them. You may say that is wrong but that is how you come across.

You have to agree that the law is weak? Prison is a holiday camp to these people. What can we do about it? Make the laws harder, make prison harder, castration? Well, that is a sore subject, ouch!!

you've DELIBERATELY avoided mentioning replies to any topic that doesn't go your way, simply screaming "won't someone think of the chiiiiiiildren? ". you refuse to admit that people attracted to children will exist REGARDLESS OF POTENTIAL PUNISHMENT FROM ACTING OUT, and you refuse to state, on record, that if your own child were abused (e.g. by a teacher) that you'd support your own "get them before they can hurt people" stance on someone with a MUCH higher chance of offending, i.e. a victim of child abuse.

if you want to convince people that your attitude has merit, you need to prove that it can be applied properly in *all* cases. the REALITY is that victims are likely offenders, and the REALITY is that those who are attracted to children will always exist. what's your catch-all, well-considered view on how to address both those problems at once, beyond your "castarte the lot" response to one specific pervert?

It is common sense that these pedos will be attracted to children regardless of punishment. They are driven by thier obscene desires etc.

Not everyone turns into a pedo etc after being abused. It is at that stage that the child needs to be helped. This is the point that can make or break how they turn out. Of course, this can only happen to children who come forward and report abuse etc.

nobody here thinks paul gadd should be allowed to abuse children. claiming otherwise is lying to support your position, because you can't support it any other way. and no, "think of the chiiiiiiiiiiiildren" isn't a valid reply

I know. But as stated earlier, a lot of people on here think a pedo, i.e, Glitter, should be treated fair and square when this has proven not to work. The 'fair and square' needs to be changed to 'Hard and strongly'

[G4Z]