Kids, why?

[dave87]

Now this may turn into a bit of a rant, so firstly, for that I apologise.


Why is it, even in reasonably nice areas (as I would class the section of Norwich I live in during Uni term time) that you get loadsa bored kids with nothing to do? Now fair enough, riding bikes round, playing football I don't care. But when did kicking wheelie bins over become an accepted part of civil society? That, and when I was younger I daren't run across other peoples front gardens - if I needed to get my football back I knocked and asked, yet this lot seem to see it as a perfectly viable footpath.

The second issue is, how do you respond to it? Last time we had a group of kids round here (that obviously didn't belong) they tried to gain access to my garage, containing motorbike and a £400 pushbike. Why? Those lot I challenged and they scarpered, but the lot this evening I'm sure if they wanted could return and do considerable damage to property (i.e. my car parked outside on the drive).

Now I'm not afraid of challenging them, but 10-15 kids significantly outnumbers the entire one of me, even if they were only 12-15 years old at a guess.


Ah well, another side of workshy Britain...

[0iD]

Someone 'could' wire the garage door to the mains with a switch inside the house, if it were legal
Which it isn't!

No, kids know the law can't touch them & will & do get away with murder. We have had similar problems in the village where I live. Police are doubly uninterested as it's kids & rural.

[staffsMike]

Someone 'could' wire the garage door to the mains with a switch inside the house, if it were legal

Just leave it unlocked.. with something that looks bomby in the middle. Door opening starts a very short timer and arming sound...

I mean you'll have to clear up the 1's and 2's they leave behind but it could make a good entry on youtube.

[shadowmaster]

Chase them down in a 4*4, soooo much fun.

I agree its ridiculous nowadays, when I was younger all we did was either play football/cricket in the park or play on our consoles. But nowadays all I see are just groups of kids aimlessly wondering around with their hoodies on pretending to be gangsters.

[strike-down]

Its the era of the chav im afraid, and unfortunately it seems we cant get rid of them. The modern day equivelent of the plague. 2 years ago there was someone stabbed round the corner from me by a group of them. Yet the police havent actually done anything

[GoNz0]

i had lots of problems with kids at the old house, sorted it out myself most of the time.
caught the silly little bastids that thought it was funny banging on the window and running off as they were stupid enough to do it on the next street, i was stood round at the end of the footpath and watched them do it to an old guys house, stood back and waited for them to run back my way and as they ran round the corner they ran into my open arms and were dragged back down the road to his house to apologise then frog marched home to there parents who were not impressed with them as they didnt think they were trouble.

then we had the gang of about 20 that thought it was funny to throw stones at the windows, i went after them and almost shat myself when i saw how many of them were there, but couldnt back down then so i grabbed the biggest one and had a polite word in his ear and explained what a 2x4 would do to his head if any of them used the footpath again.

then we had the little ****s who thought it was fun to use the garden as a shortcut and break the fence jumping it, i caught those and grabbed the biggest one again as he was stupid enough not to run off like a few of the others, he gave me the mobile number and addy of the one that broke the fence so i rang her up and explained if she didnt pop round i would be passing the info with discription to the police. i took a photo of the remaining ones.

20 mins later i had her parents round saying i had grabbed hold of here and given her what for. so i explained the spinless git had ran off so how could i have grabbed her, they phoned her and told her to come round to my house and explain herself, she broke down in tears and admitted she ran off..

a week later a community support idiot came round as he had had a complaint that i had took a photo of them, considering the wife is a probation officer she explained his job and my rights to take a picture, so off he went to explain the law to the tards that made the complaint..

it all went quiet again. this was over 3 years and it seemed each year another bunch grew up enough to become trouble, but it was soon quashed.

im glad i dont live there any more and wont move next to a footpath again !

[Jay]

I had trouble with "kids" some 20+ years old! I just found the guy they though was "cool" and let him know that if it carrys on then I will get some lads his age to gome down and smash him all over the street, that also goes for any trouble I see his mates up to.

His dad came round my house and I told him the same!

Funny enough it all stopped.

[dave87]

That's the thing though, why does it automatically have to end in confrontation?

Just getting them to piss off and do something constructive would suffice, but that doesn't seem to happen.

[samcross]

Someone 'could' wire the garage door to the mains with a switch inside the house, if it were legal
Which it isn't!

But if they were trying to illegally break into your garage they wouldn't exactly go running to the police would they!

[GoNz0]

That's the thing though, why does it automatically have to end in confrontation?

Just getting them to piss off and do something constructive would suffice, but that doesn't seem to happen.

because they all play on the fact no one dare go near them for fear of breaking the law as they think there untouchable.

once you let them know you dont give a flying **** what the law has to say as they wont be able to prove it then the story changes.

[TAKTAK]

But if they were trying to illegally break into your garage they wouldn't exactly go running to the police would they!

.... but with the way the law works in this country, if someone broke into your home, and subsequently injured themselves (mebbe you left lego on the floor [everyone loves lego ]) then they are quite within their rights to sue you and win.... despite the fact that they broke into your home in the first place

I really don't get why everyone wants to be 'gangstas' nowadays... WTF is the point in being a prick?

[Behemoth]

I blame it all on the music alot of these kids listen to, I know it sounds daft but I'm sure for example alot of this so called rap music glamourises the gangster image. I could be barking right up the wrong tree here, so please tell me to fall out of it if thats the case.

I also think alot of it is down to bad parenting, sitting the little tykes infront of a PS3 and saying "Here you go love, enjoy GTA:IV" I've had parents buying these games for 10 year olds, it's like lazy parenting in my mind, they can't be bothered to sit their offspring down and tell them the difference between right and wrong so I'll just sit them down infront of a telly and let that do my job for me.

If these parents can't be bothered to teach their spawns at least some kind of common decencey then they should not be allowed to have kids.

[samcross]

.... but with the way the law works in this country, if someone broke into your home, and subsequently injured themselvesthen they are quite within their rights to sue you and win.... despite the fact that they broke into your home in the first place

Don't get me started on that

[staffsMike]

.... but with the way the law works in this country, if someone broke into your home, and subsequently injured themselves (mebbe you left lego on the floor [everyone loves lego ]) then they are quite within their rights to sue you and win.... despite the fact that they broke into your home in the first place

I really don't get why everyone wants to be 'gangstas' nowadays... WTF is the point in being a prick?

good times..

[Whiternoise]

Parenting i blame. I think in some ways the economic crisis will be a good thing, parents just won't be able to afford to pander to their little sods every whim. Kids start off like this from their first days at school, parents are nonchalant and say they're just "being kids". They don't discipline properly, kids push their parents around and get away with what they like. By the time they're 15+ it's just a vicious circle.

And yeah, mostly it's because they think they can get away with it that they do it.

Another issue is that there's not much the police can do about it, even if they're arrested or have a criminal record, what good does that do? They don't care, a criminal record prevents them from getting jobs, so they're back on the streets which then leads to committing crimes out of boredom, petty theft and vandalism. The law needs to be changed, but whether making it harsher will work is debatable. No good just slinging people in prison, i think that it would be better to push more funding into social services, "training" for parents - i'm all for people taking a parenting exam before they're allowed custody of their kids -, and more money into rehabilitation work. If you force people to see the consequences of their actions, most of them will see that what they're doing isn't good or clever.

What i worry about isn't the kids, it's problem we face of a generation containing a large number of generally antisocial, unemployable people.

[Clunk]

Get a Pygmy style blow pipe and pick them off one by one.