Important Could all UK residents/nationals sign this please?

[Virtual Monkey]

I'm sure it does make you feel ill and I'm not saying it is right. What I am saying is that there are more serious issues that need to be addressed before we all go off on one over this.

You'll prob say "like what" so as an example what about pensioners that cannot afford to heat their houses?

I'd probably agree with you if it wasn't only an internet petition. It's not exactly a massive waste of resources.

Babies with ear peircings make me cringe. I think 12 with parental concent should be the min.

Also, why would you need a tattoo for medical purposes?!

[finlay666]

Also, why would you need a tattoo for medical purposes?!

• As a warning that a patient suffers from a chronic disease that can exacerbate suddenly and that will require immediate specialist treatment. One example is in the case of congenital adrenal hyperplasia, in which patients may need steroid replacement therapy during ordinary illness.
  
• As an aid in radiotherapy. In order to minimize damage to surrounding tissues, the radiotherapist seeks to keep the irradiated field as small as possible. Marking a number of points on the body with tattoos can aid radiotherapists in adjusting the beam properly.
  
• During breast reconstruction after mastectomy (removal of the breast for treatment of cancer), or breast reduction surgery. Tattooing is sometimes used to replace the areola which has been removed during mastectomy, or to fill in areas of pigment loss which may occur during breast reduction performed with a free nipple graft technique.

Amazing what you find it you google it

[Knoxville]

well that's exactly the way I got me first tattoo when I was 16. Maybe just a case of the tattooist covering his ass there. I regret the design I chose but not getting it done. It reminds me of what I was like at that age and brings back memories.

But there lies my point - I really wanted to have it done. And, as with ear piearcing, I think that if the child wants it done, then so be it.
I remember when I was at infant school young girls wanting it done. I say leave it to free will where possible instead of dictating to people right and wrong based on your own beliefs. Ruin's it for everyone else.

At the age of sixteen I don't think many if any young people are wise enough to make a truley informed decision when it comes to body modification, I used to spend a fair amount of time in my local tattooist back in the day and the number of young girls coming in asking to have work covered up they'd only had done a couple of months previous because they "don't really like it anymore" was worrying to say the least.

Piercings are a slightly different animal for the most part, take it out it heals up and goes away but there's a permanance about tattoo's that I just don't think young people grasp 100% of the time. That's not to say there are those that don't but I think age restrictions of 16+ for piercings and 18+ for tattoo's are perfectly reasonable and should be applied to ear piercing as well, I might not be so harsh with regards to ear piercing if it were carried out with a needle as it should be but no young child should have their ears pierced with a gun in my opinion.

[Turbotab]

What, like posting messages on an internet forum?

The sight of babies and toddlers with pierced ears makes me feel ill.

First time I went to India, and saw babies with earrings and jewellery, it was a massive culture shock. But you soon realise that it is the kids without any jewellery etc, that are the unlucky ones, as their parent either cannot afford or do not want to look after them.

[Funkstar]

Also, why would you need a tattoo for medical purposes?!

Loss of eye brows after radio/chemo therapy or having alopecia.

[JPreston]

Loss of eye brows after radio/chemo therapy or having alopecia.

Tattooing your entire head would be incredibly painful, and a bad tattooist might give you eyebrows with a permanently surprised expression.

I was thinking along the lines of something like "I am allergic to penicillin" in various languages. Might look pretty cool in gothic script. Hell, I've got some chinese characters and for all I know that's what they say.

[Brucelles]

You have to be 18 to get a tattoo regardless if I remember correctly.

Not if you get it done in a young offenders institution. Then you just lose remission.

[Funkstar]

Tattooing your entire head would be incredibly painful, and a bad tattooist might give you eyebrows with a permanently surprised expression.

The reason I suggested that as a possible "medical tattoo" is that one of my mums friends had that done a number of years ago. She wears a wig and you would never tell. Seriously, I had no idea until mum said something about it a few years ago.

[MadduckUK]

Also, why would you need a tattoo for medical purposes?!

[Gfinch]

I agree with you on this. Why the hell do some babies have ear piercings?

Another important issue is that people who go to hospital due to underage pregnancy, should be told off about it. Not given 6 free condoms and told, yea well be more careful. They are breaking the law!

[Agent]

I agree with you on this. Why the hell do some babies have ear piercings?

Another important issue is that people who go to hospital due to underage pregnancy, should be told off about it. Not given 6 free condoms and told, yea well be more careful. They are breaking the law!

They are also considerably less likely to go to hospital at all if that approach is taken.

[Gfinch]

They are also considerably less likely to go to hospital at all if that approach is taken.

Then let them have the baby and ruin their lives. It would save the government a bit of money and should only be offered the morning after pill (Accidents do happen).

[Agent]

Then let them have the baby and ruin their lives. It would save the government a bit of money and should only be offered the morning after pill (Accidents do happen).

Hang on....in the first sentence you say let them have the kid, in the next that it would save the government money?
Who do you think pays for all these single chavy mums? - The tax payer.

Getting the morning after pill is quite easy too (see: http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relat...gafterpill.htm). So again, whats the point in giving them a hard time at the hospital exactly? You're only more likely to scare them into not coming back if it happens again....costing us more, brining a child into the world with a child parent, and having a kid which probably isn't going to have the best upbringing.

Any underage person who has had sex and ends up in hospital is given education about it, which is exactly the correct approach...not 'told off'.

[Adnoz]

I could never sign something like this. Who are we to say what a parent can and cannot allow their child to do? I'm not exactly ok with babies having their bodies permanently modified by piercings and such, but it's most certainly not my place to step in and stop a parent if that is their wish, nor is it a governments job, either.
What's next, stopping parents from cutting their childs hair just because we think it makes them look weird or scruffy?

[Agent]

I could never sign something like this. Who are we to say what a parent can and cannot allow their child to do?

Can you not see the most obvious problem with that?
Where do you draw the line?



He approves.

What's next, stopping parents from cutting their childs hair just because we think it makes them look weird or scruffy?

Ramming a metal rod through someone is slightly different to cutting their hair

[Adnoz]

Can you not see the most obvious problem with that?
Where do you draw the line?



He approves.

Are you comparing a child having a tiny non permanent hole put into their ear at what is most likely their request to a child being forced into having sex?
That's a pretty bad comparison. Obviously there are times when someone should intervene, but too much control over children is being taken away these days, and transferring parental rights over to a government frightens me more than anything else.

Ramming a metal rod through someone is slightly different to cutting their hair

It really isn't, it's a tiny metal hole which heals over time, kinda like if you were to shave half of your kids hair off. It hurts for a whole 3 minutes anyway.
But like I said, I'm not exactly cool with babies having their ears pierced, but if a kid of 5 or 6 wants it done, and their parents agree, then who the hell is anyone to stop them?