Vampires.... what's the attraction?

[[GSV]Trig]

Brilliant, thats going on my wall of Twilight as well, I feel a new facebook album coming on...

[mycarsavw]

Vampires.... what's the attraction?

Blood/necks?

[sleepyhead]

I was invited out tonight by a friend and her quite attractive friend to watch Twilight/New Moon/Whatever it's called. Thought, what they hey? I'll be sitting with these two girls so it can't all be bad...can it?
Twilight is a TERRIBLE film...absolutely terrible. The beginning drags....ALOT and the story meanders like some lost child in a supermarket. At the end of it all....I can't even remember actually watching it. I remember the opening bit and the end. The middle bit...I think I was asleep.

Oh and the other girls in the cinema did go "kyaaaa~~~!!" alot. It was like they were watching porn.

...and to top off the evening I was actually asked, which one did I prefer if i was a girl...the dude or...the dude (they do have names but I've forgotten them). I did express my discontent with the film which went down well.

[MadduckUK]

the vampires drive a volvo, only kurt cobain could get away with that tbh

[sleepyhead]

the vampires drive a volvo, only kurt cobain could get away with that tbh

Vampires drove a car? Where did I miss that bit...I usually car whore when I get bored in films...The only one that stuck in my mind was a tractor...oh and a yellow left hooker porsche.

Actually I'd rather not try and recall what vehicle the fairies (I mean vampires) drove.

[MadduckUK]

actually i'd rather not try and recall what vehicle the fairies (i mean vampires) drove.

a volvo :| i have already told you, it was a volvo

[sleepyhead]

a volvo :| i have already told you, it was a volvo

*puts hands over eyes*

~la-la-la~ can't see what you're typing...~la-la-la~

[MadduckUK]

it wasnt even a big volvo, it was a small volvo.

[Biscuit]

it wasnt even a big volvo, it was a small volvo.

figures, fairys dont take up much space

[Buzzsaw]

I'm really, REALLY glad that I've avoided "that fairie film" now.
I normally like vampire films, even some of the duff ones ( I also have a liking for really bad movies, no, WORSE THAN TITANIC!), but something about it did not sit right.
It could have been another Underworld (good), or a vampire version of Dog Soldiers (also good).

And just remembered this:
http://lovecraftismissing.com/?m=20091116

[12GaugeShotty]

I blame that Bram Stoker guy, for making Vampires 'sexy' and ultimately leading to the sickening media phenomenon that is 'Twighlight'.

What I don't get is the whole attraction of it all. . . apart from Buffy

You can blame it all on Vlad The Impaler, the inspiration behind Bram Stoker's novel.

Regarding current resurgence of vampires, I believe that would be with Underworld (2003) where a hot Kate Beckinsale vampire in skin tight black leather is rather appealing. Most appeal is only to those that like horror/science fiction.

Then Stephenie Meyer released the first Twilight book in 2005 where she essentially copied the vampires vs werewolves theme from Underworld and made it into a mind numbing romance novel. Given that it is from the mindset of teenaged girls they all flocked to it like flies to manure. Most men would rather end their own lives than read a single chapter of the novels and the movies have been complete jokes with horrible acting and for some odd reason no gore for a vampire vs werewolf flick. The vampires don't even have fangs and they sparkle in the sun. All lame.

Of course Charlaine Harris started her Sookie Stackhouse series in 2001 but nobody cared until 2008 when HBO came out with True Blood and showed off Anna Paquin's great body to appeal to men. Men of course like it due to the gore and nudity throughout. Women like it because of the forbidden love concept and how the main vampire (Bill Compton) does stupid things like risking his life for the woman he "loves".

Then there's supposedly some show on the CW about vampires but I didn't bother because there won't be any nudify or gore on a show on the CW.

I never bothered with Buffy because I never found Sarah Michelle Gellar to be attractive nor the story (based upon the 1992 film of the same name) worth my time. Okay, Sarah Michelle Gellar was hot as a slut in "Cruel Intentions" but that's about it.

[pollaxe]

Then Stephenie Meyer released the first Twilight book in 2005 where she essentially copied the vampires vs werewolves theme from Underworld and made it into a mind numbing romance novel. Given that it is from the mindset of teenaged girls they all flocked to it like flies to manure. Most men would rather end their own lives than read a single chapter of the novels and the movies have been complete jokes with horrible acting and for some odd reason no gore for a vampire vs werewolf flick. The vampires don't even have fangs and they sparkle in the sun. All lame.

Doubly ironic as Sony settled with Nancy A. Collins and White Wolf for allegedly lifting a lot of stuff from one of Collins' novels with very similar themes and settings for Underworld!

I read Twelve by Jasper Kent recently, if anyone's into vampires that's definitely one to add to the library.

[12GaugeShotty]

Doubly ironic as Sony settled with Nancy A. Collins and White Wolf for allegedly lifting a lot of stuff from one of Collins' novels with very similar themes and settings for Underworld!

I read Twelve by Jasper Kent recently, if anyone's into vampires that's definitely one to add to the library.

Michael Jackson settled ($22 million) with Jordan Chandler and his father, Evan Chandler who claimed he molested Jordan. Kobe Bryant settled (undisclosed) with Katelyn Faber who claimed he raped her.

That doesn't mean anyone was guilty.

From my understanding, the Sonja Blue vampire goth novels are nothing like Underworld. Sonja Blue was raped and drained of her blood by a vampire and she sets out to kill him. How is that remotely like Underworld? It has werewolves and ogres in the books as well? I didn't see ogres (Shrek anyone?) in the Underworld movies.

The similarity that was copied by the Twilight series (from Underworld) is strictly vampire vs werewolf. Thankfully the Underworld series features better acting (hello, Bill Nighy?), a real plotline, actually accurate looking werewolves that take time to transform as opposed to split second leaping through the air garbage, tons of guns, gore and Kate Beckinsale.

[Knoxville]

Thankfully the Underworld series features better acting (hello, Bill Nighy?), a real plotline, actually accurate looking werewolves that take time to transform as opposed to split second leaping through the air garbage, tons of guns, gore and Kate Beckinsale.

Did you see the third one? It had none of those things

[pollaxe]

Michael Jackson settled ($22 million) with Jordan Chandler and his father, Evan Chandler who claimed he molested Jordan. Kobe Bryant settled (undisclosed) with Katelyn Faber who claimed he raped her.

That doesn't mean anyone was guilty.

True but you can find plenty of people who think there's no smoke without fire.

From my understanding, the Sonja Blue vampire goth novels are nothing like Underworld. Sonja Blue was raped and drained of her blood by a vampire and she sets out to kill him. How is that remotely like Underworld? It has werewolves and ogres in the books as well? I didn't see ogres (Shrek anyone?) in the Underworld movies.

The similarity that was copied by the Twilight series (from Underworld) is strictly vampire vs werewolf. Thankfully the Underworld series features better acting (hello, Bill Nighy?), a real plotline, actually accurate looking werewolves that take time to transform as opposed to split second leaping through the air garbage, tons of guns, gore and Kate Beckinsale.

You could well be right but I think that the contention was that the plot and a number of other factors were lifted fairly directly from a short story she wrote called The Love of Monsters which was about a love affair between a female vampire and a male werewolf. I'm not sure Sonja Blue actually 'starred' in the book but there was presumably enough subject matter to make a case. IIRC the Underworld DVD release has some acknowledgement of the story as either its inspiration or the like. I could be wrong on that and misremembering Hardware and its belated acknowledgement of the 2000 A.D. story it was based on.

Whatever the truth, as I wrote earlier in the thread, putting Kate Beckinsale as a vampire in a pvc catsuit was nothing short of genius.

[sleepyhead]

I must be a rare beast in that I don't like Kate Bekinsale and didn't think Underworld was all that.

Still, whatever floats people's boats