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Animus and bob, you should both watch it. Shoots you down in flames tbh.
Really interesting that video Exhail.
Animus and bob, you should both watch it. Shoots you down in flames tbh.
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http://youtu.be/vxetq4u2bK4
Yep, definatley working for me.
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I think you sometimes get that message on mobile devices, usually only for newer uploads though.
Second link worked. And No. No it doesn't at all.
For a start off why do you think anything I've said disagrees with the kind of ideas he is drawing from statistical correlations? They don't!
But also, I have to say, despite agreeing with a lot of his points, they are flawed. He talks about the maths correctly, but ignores one thing, correlation does not imply causality. Also he talks of drug use as thou its some bad thing, but if you've a bucket of opiates, crack, cocaine, MDMA it's not really right to do so imnsho.
So lets drag this back to context about the 99% and the 1%, he actually talks about them you know, something along the lines of "The really rich are a fraction of 1%, we can't really talk about them because we don't have the data on them." oh, he mentions that they don't have the data on them.
So I can't see how this would possibly "shoot my down in flames tbh". I'm saying that these people, on the whole are hypocrits, who are not suggesting anything useful, whilst complaining about their privileged position.
A good example of why I think your unhelpful was on an example I don't want to elaborate too much in public, but for example you said eairler:
So first off, free movement of labour is something I believe pasionately about. Do you? Do you not think someone can leave on a whim?Well, if I were doing the hiring at your particular company I would have probably found myself some genius wonderkid and had him trained up to do the role. 6 months and 300k is certainly enough time and budget for that and I would have had a full time staff member at the end of it with a contract rather than a contractor that can leave on a whim.
Next how long do you think it takes to find the right kind of genius? Its not like you can find them in a directory. A first isn't really a suitable differentiation, too many people get them.
Then you think they can learn everything required in 6 months, again you know nothing about the domain, I would say your mistaken.
But oddly I find this ascertition that it needs to be a genius wonderkid, not just a regular joe, you admit that not everyone can do it, and there might be an issue of supply and demand. Yet you don't think time would be an issue?
This is why I'm affriad I think your beliefs in this matter there are completely unrealistic, and you deomonstrate a complete and utter lack of understanding. As it stands what you say, doesn't add up.
My suggestions, which have always been the same is the best way to solve these issues of inequality is to simply view them as a supply and demand issue. Investment in education would therefore only help matters, but to have proper targeted investment, rather than the silly one size fits all. You also have to be careful of notions such as 50% to uni, as that is not what the industries wanted, a degree sadly, is now just a way of filtering out 50% of the population immediately, as such this makes it harder for social mobility and will lead to greater in equality on mass. 20 years ago it was perfectly acceptable for people in 'desirable' jobs to not have a degree, now its the first thing any applicant is asked for. This is why you have to really look at the consiquences of an action, just because you have an idealistic concept, such as more people to uni (which I found great fun, and would wish everyone could have) can actually lead to a much worse scenareo.
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@ TheAnimus
Correlation might not mean causality but if more equal societies are always better off than unequal ones you don't need to know why that is or what factors are the causes of it in order to understand we should be moving towards equality as much as possible. This fallacy that we have to know why first before we can fix the problem is false, as it is eloquently described in this talk: Tim Harford: Trial, error and the God Complex
Also the reason this information about equality makes some of your arguments wrong is that you support the unequal distribution of money by saying people should be allowed to earn ridiculous sums because they are worth it. Quite obviously they aren't because the problems evident in unequal societies makes continuing a practise like that rather bad for the society. Higher production of goods and more GDP no longer correlate to benefits for society, as they used to. So while eighty years ago your argument would be true, they would create more benefit to the society than the negative of inequality, that is no longer the case. Things have changed and the results paint a very different picture, thus we need to change accordingly.
Good idea's that produce meaningful results, like the Barefoot Movement, tend to work outside our current system; this should make it obvious that our system is not benefiting us. If we have to disconnect ourselves from the system in order utilise clever and useful idea's properly then we should be pursuing those idea's rather than trying to maintain the incumbent system we find ourselves in.
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TED Talks will have a more refined version of the spirit level presentation posted at some point; Richard Wilkinson gave a talk at their 2011 Global Event held in Edinburgh but his talk hasn't been uploaded yet.
I could spend a million dollars on flight training over the next year.
If flying for recreation is paid for and driving lessons, then what if I want to take some lessons in a race car? That would be fun!
Suddenly everyone's recreation is paid for by the taxpayer!
I do have a solution. What if everyone had to pay back the cost of training over a long period of time on reasonable terms? There would be nothing stopping people getting any education they want. Those who choose to get an education which will help them with a career path, and will make more money as a result can pay it back with their extra income. The others, who choose to learn for other reasons still have to pay back the taxpayer. We could call it a 'Student Loan'.
samcross (22-10-2011)
@ TeePee
What if schools weren't standardised? You didn't get a paper proclamation afterwards but instead actual skills useful to the community you lived in? A place where you could go to test and experiment with new and crazy idea's to see if they work. It would cost the community more not to have you at school.
That is exactly that type of school that Bunker Roy created with his Barefoot Movement(http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/bunker_roy.html - 00:19:08). Turns out when you put money aside and ignore it's distortions you can actually achieve amazing things. It certainly puts the school system anywhere else to shame.
This is also a very useful analysis of our incumbent school system: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U - 00:11:41
If you have skills useful to the community, then they have value, and you can sell them. This means you can afford to pay back the cost of learning them. It's pretty simple, it's worked for hundreds of years and it's the reason the standard of living is better in the West than in Rajasthan, India.
Yeah, the whole point of that vid was that yes, market systems and growth has worked for a hundred years to improve things but that it isn't any more and won't yield any further improvement in future.
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Noxvayl (22-10-2011)
If anything were to come from all of this, Id like to see a switch from an obsession with growth to one of sustainable stability.
I dont expect it to happen, as Im sure the choices required to do it are harder than most people are prepared to accept.
In my own estimation, I could fix all the worlds problems in about 30mins, but then, no one would actually like my methods for it
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