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About LinkBacksThey have lowered prices of PC games. Doesn't seem to have done anything to stop piracy.Originally Posted by GeorgeTuk
They have lowered prices of PC games. Doesn't seem to have done anything to stop piracy.
Hmm... I wonder if the persons caught were using a torrent client capable of encrypting the data like some of them are.
Surely if the data's encrypted it cannot be decyphered like standard traffic can
I think if you looked at the average age of those people pirating games I would imagine outside of those explicitly trying to make money out of it they are all younger people who don't have any substantial income and thus cannot afford a new game every month or so
A lot of these things rely on the threat of action they probably don't know it was a torrent other than the fact they were using a well known torrent port. If there is traffic on that port at the time they suspect then they will make accusations on the off chance they are right.
In this particular case the person probably fell pray to a BSA sting operation where they host the files themselves and watch to see who is connecting. This is the only sure fire way for them to capture good information.
Connect to any torrent and you can see all the peers IP's wouldn't even need to finish downloading or download at all tbh.
they catch us downloading stuff but there are other ways of obtaining ilegal software movies and music. You could buy them from actual people selling them for £3 a cd. That in itself i agree is ilegal because your making profit on somthing you never produced yourself.
At Lee @ SCAN: After i was caught i then realized that there are ways to try to not get caught anymore. I know enable encryption on utorrent and also i go to PRIVATE torrent sites not public one's anymore. Can they still track people from a private torrent site?
And to what Aurhinius said, Yes i agree i think thats what happened to me. I think thats how they catch people, hench why i am staying away from public torrent sites now
Last edited by j.o.s.h.1408; 23-01-2007 at 08:28 PM.
What about all those smug people on AOL with changing IP addresses?
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I imagine they are concentrating their "searching" on newly released software/music - so you're most likely to get caught if you try downloading something like Maya or Wow: Burning Crusade. I really don't think it'd be worth their while to search for every single little app that people are downloading.
Last edited by Whiternoise; 23-01-2007 at 09:31 PM.
I dunno if they keep a record, but I assume they would. There are things you can do to protect yourself, but the principle one would be to buy software
Problem is, this makes me want to turn my adsl into a node on a darknet.
How long before my googling of dietry advice, or that nasty itch i think i have becomes monitored?
throw new ArgumentException (String, String, Exception)
Darknet?
I suspect he is talking about the Tor network.
Hmm i don't download software any more.. i used to, but it got a bit pointless as games were only single player and the applications well - to be perfectly honest - it was easier just to download the trial and crack. i definitely don't condone it
Music, same, not much point downloading as it's a lot nicer to have the physical CD - what with amazon's prices, you can just wait till the albums are cheap and then get loads of em
Does anyone know what the rate of people getting caught by using direct download methods such as rapidshare is? Just out of interest really, because if one has a subscription then you effectively have stupidly fast downloads and you aren't sending out anything like the amount of data used by torrents.
Last edited by Whiternoise; 23-01-2007 at 10:35 PM.
I dont download games anymore, its pointless because you cannot play multiplayer online anyway, only with a retail copy.Plus the prices for games are reasonable IMO.
However when it comes to music its debatable because you do get some albums that only have 9-10 songs which cost between 10-12 pounds. i would want to see at least 15-16 tracks on an album for that money tbh.
I thought there was a loophole in UK law (soon to be changed) to the effect that the BSA or whoever have to demonstrate a loss from the copyright infringement...so on the morning you are due in court, all you have to do is actually buy the particular licence you are charged with pirating and the case is dismissed. Still I suppose it doesn't cost much to send a scary letter threatening action that you are incapable of actually taking
On the subject of movies, even were it possible to download any and every movie imaginable from a hypothetical clever messageboard type system, I imagine I'd spend exactly the same amount of money on going to the cinema and on my lovefilm subscription (lovefilm....) as before....only I wouldn't have to put up with price-fixing regionalisation practices and would now have access to a load of dross that I would happily have gone without anyway
TV is a tricky problem because the tech-savvy intelligentsia who are well-heeled enough to have broadband and home PCs are exactly the sort of people who the advertisers in Lost (say) want to target....shame it's only the slack-jawed dullards who sit through the adverts that make up 40% of its total running time when it's shown on channel 4, three years later. Glad I don't work in marketing...
I agree partially with the music downloading (ie if you pirate an album that's sold over half a million copies, then it's morally ethical - the singer has probably made enough not to worry about the piracy), but however much easier it is to just download, all your'e getting is a few 0's and 1's. If you pay, then you get something to add to the already buckling shelves - plus it's physical reassurance.
I think my final point on the music debate is that if you pirate music then there are a couple of moral things to think about:
- If you download music from a certain artist and you really enjoy it, then maybe it's worth buying the CD.
- I don't like the idea of pirating music from new bands that haven't really made it big yet - if you're going to pirate, then at least rip off the people that just sing for the money. Plus albums from artists that have yet to hit big could sell with very high interest when the band do go globalso that's your tenner back!
- Unsigned artists are your friends
Games i agree, are reasonably priced. But only the single player ones. I have no quarms whatsoever with people who download MMO's to play on private servers (making people pay for the game and then charging them extra for playing it is piracy in itself imo), because tbh they're not making a dent in the company profits (no server costs, etc.) and if the game is that good then i suspect most people would consider buying anyway. Considering the amount of use (and time) you can get out of a good strategy/rpg game, the price is definitely justified.
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What's the law about downloading tv shows that are recorded from the tv? e.g i've got QI in "easy listen" form
Last edited by Whiternoise; 23-01-2007 at 11:16 PM.
What nonsense. Caught by who? Are they going to 'catch' the thousands/millions downloading TV shows everyday? No.
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