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    networking advice(homeplug vs wifi)

    Hi i am planning on hooking up by be broadband connection and my network together with my dads and bro's pc's. At the back of our garden there is a summer house where i stay and practicly live in. i have my own seperate telephone line there away from the main house and thats where my bb connection is. the summer house is about 40-50 feet away.

    i have tries the 14mbps homeplug and it worked well but does anyone know any experience in the 85/200mbps ones?

    Shall i dump the homeplug and go with wifi? wifi-g is not enough so i may need to use the new wifi -n i believe its called.

    i want to be able to transfer data at 100mbps at least between my pc to my bro's and dads.

    to sumerize my post the questions im asking is:

    homeplug or wifi?
    best wifi equipment and requirements?

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    Only way to get 100mbps is to run cable. period.

    Have you looked at line of site wireless? Using a couple of adapted pringles tubes (no joke) you can get a really clear line of site uni-directional signal.

    Nice little project too.

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    Or a wi-fi wok

    Something im planning in a few weeks
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    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

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    Just to be clear - even with cable you won't approach anything like 100Mbps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash View Post
    Just to be clear - even with cable you won't approach anything like 100Mbps
    I think you misinterpreted what the poster said. He means to get 100mbps on your lan, use (ethernet) cables.

    If I've misinterpreted what you've said, and you actually meant that with a wired lan you won't get full speed, then you're wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weegie.geek View Post
    I think you misinterpreted what the poster said. He means to get 100mbps on your lan, use (ethernet) cables.

    If I've misinterpreted what you've said, and you actually meant that with a wired lan you won't get full speed, then you're wrong.
    I am? Please explain in real world terms how I can transfer from one machine to another on my LAN at these speeds then... I seem to recall reading something about a magical thing called "overhead" or something somewhere...

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    Splash: http://img.hexus.net/v2/datastorage/..._tests-big.jpg

    20% overhead... I'd say that's still "something like" 100Mbps. It's a damn sight less overhead than what you get with WiFi.
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    yep, my point was more along the lines that he wants "at least" 100Mbps. Just trying to set realistic expectations, though I suppose my wording may have been bad. A 1/5 overhead is still a fair chunk though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash View Post
    Just to be clear - even with cable you won't approach anything like 100Mbps
    Cable can do over 100Mbp/s with ease! (some Cat5e / Cat6)
    Its usually the equipment at the end of the cable that is the bottleneck, not the cable itself.

    Gigabit Ethernet for example?
    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

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    yep, the cable can easily throughput that amount of data however without a NIC at either end it's not much use really, is it? And regardless of that, the OP ain't gonna get "at least" 100Mbps using wireless, is he?

    EDIT - to bring this thread back on-topic I'd personally recommend the homeplug for stability.
    Last edited by Splash; 31-05-2007 at 05:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash View Post
    Just to be clear - even with cable you won't approach anything like 100Mbps
    with cable you can get near enough 100Mbps.... around 9.8mb/s with my network at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam1701 View Post
    with cable you can get near enough 100Mbps.... around 9.8mb/s with my network at home.
    Quote Originally Posted by Splash View Post
    yep, my point was more along the lines that he wants "at least" 100Mbps. Just trying to set realistic expectations, though I suppose my wording may have been bad. A 1/5 overhead is still a fair chunk though...
    Already answered your point mate... And "near enough" still isn't "at least", is it?

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    will the homeplug 200mbps actualy transfer data at that rate? why cant wired transfer to 100mpbs? it should do because there are wired networks that can transfer a whopping 1000mbps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    will the homeplug 200mbps actualy transfer data at that rate? why cant wired transfer to 100mpbs? it should do because there are wired networks that can transfer a whopping 1000mbps!
    Dont worry about what's been wrote above - its going OT and is getting down to the technical side.
    Basiclly you usually don't get 100% efficiency from any device, and 100Mbps LAN speeds are no different due to many factors, but we wont get into that

    Bottom line - If you can go cable - do, if you cant, then we'll look at other ways

    There are some wireless cards which feature 125Mbps transfer rates, but your mileage will vary a lot with these as most were released before the official standard for 802.11n was ratified. You will also need a router that supports them (you should usually stick to the same brand to stop any issues from happening)

    I cant comment on the homeplugs, as from what ive read it depends a lot on your house wiring. Have a google for some reviews
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    Nope, the homeplugs won't transfer at 200Mbit. For a start they've only got a 100Mbit ethernet interface on them (the ones I have anyway). The throughout is very dependant on the quality of your electrical cabling, I get a real throughout of about 85Mbit between a PC in the office and a download box out in the shed.

    I was always a bit sceptical about homeplugs but I finally get fed up enough with my Linksys AP (that was acting as a bridge) screwing up and stopping me being able to watch my Slingbox so I bought a pair of Netgear HDX200 (I think that's the model) and haven't had any problems with them.

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    Just found
    http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/02...bps_powerline/

    Both speeds are raw data rates in ideal conditions, so real-world speeds, with allowance of error correction and Ethernet protocols, will be lower, but it still represents a big boost. The real-world speed is believed to be around 100Mbps.
    Dont take that as fact though.
    Firstly its from the reg.
    Secondly they have not tested it and are guessing by the sounds of it, but its probably not far off
    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    And by trying to force me to like small pants, they've alienated me.

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