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    Zak it says Q1 2005 which is before April - I think that i can wait a few months

    Purple, what's wrong with Telewest, I understood that they were slightly better than NTL?

    Lourdes, 5Gb cap on 1Mb now that sucks - bang goes the thought of saving £7 a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daniel_owen_uk
    40gb cap thats me sticking with adsl then.
    Yep, I just read that it will be capped. Oh well, there's plenty of other choices.

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    buff, may be based on outdated info, 3 years ago i tried to get Telewest, they wouldnt do anything i wanted, demanded that i get a TV package or something from them as well as a phone line, and it came out to like £60 a month no matter what i tried to get them to do. They just struck me as a nasty company with shoddy service, i lived in an NTL area before and they used to cut their prices and give you free services to try, provide a free info channel, and Sky 1 for free. Telewest just seemed to want to extort me at every turn and charge for as much as possible and make it as difficult as they could in the first place.

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    Well theres ment to be a 30Gb cap at the mo, I've been well over 30Gb recently and I was still browsing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple
    I would kill for NTL which i used to get in my home town. sob. i pay 26.99 + line rental for 1 meg adsl, i could afford 3 meg for that. sob.

    is cable still synchronous (sp?)
    it is a great shame ntl sucks at support and cannot keep you connected 24/7 in my area , also they overcharge as well here ,thats why i ended up on aol (and people say aol suck )
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    I feel gutted about starting a thread labelled 'NTL lovliness'. I should have waited for the dust to settle first, then I could have seen it was the typical NTL turdiness covered in a lovliness wrapper.
    I can't see the point of the speed increase if you can't actually use it. It's like the local Ford dealer swapping your Fiesta for a Ferrari and then telling you that you can only drive 10 miles a week in it. Personally I'd rather have the Fiesta and be able to go where the hell I liked.

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    nice analogy

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    NTL lovliness my ass! For the past year or so my NTL 1Mb BB has deteriorated steadily. Up until last week it was broken more than 50% of the time, often for days at a time, and even when it was up there were frequent breaks in the connection. I reported the fault 3 times. First 2 times they sent an engineer to replace my Pace STB with a Samsung one to fix the fault and upgrade to 1.5MB. But the engineers insisted the Samsung box would give neither a fix nor a speed boost. They blamed the network, and did nothing. 3rd time they fitted an attenuator. Service went down for 2 days.
    For the last week, the connection has been reliable. Hurrah, I thought, they've finally fixed it! Excitedly I did a speed test to see if I was also getting a 1.5Mb link.
    The bastards had downgraded me to 750K without telling me, and they are still charging me £38pm (paid until mid November.)
    I will ask for a refund. They will promise to give it. They will fail to give it. I will cancel my service. NTL are the spawn of Hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lourdes
    It doesn't mention the new caps which I'm sure will be enforced.
    Got a link? The old limits were mostly theoretical. If you exceeded them you were not disconnected or blocked, they would just contact you and ask you to stop taking the piss. Then disconnect you if you continued. NTL don't claim to offer unlimited BB download. If they have reasonable limits and enforce them fairly, that's OK by me. But if they've changed that, it's yet another reason to leave them.
    Here's the link I was thinking of The limits WERE daily, but you could exceed them a few times a fortnight.
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    they don't say anything about upload speeds and they have serious bandwidth limitations. at least those of us with the old packages can keep them for the timebeing...

    ntl at the moment:-
    average ubr (universal broadband relocator (?)) has a 32MBit downstream and several 2MBit upstreams.
    bandwidth 'cap': 1GB/day - not strictly enforced.
    300k service (300kb/s down, 64kb/s up) £17.99/month
    750k service (750kb/s down, 128kb/s up) £24.99/month
    1.5Mb service (1.5Mb/s down, 256kb/s up) £37.99/month



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    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33
    THATS GONNA TAKE A WHILE GUYS

    First off: They have only just finished upgrading the 150 to 300, the 600 to 700 and the 1 meg to 1.5 has not arrived in lots of places.

    After announcing that it took them a long while to actually do.

    The 1 meg used to be £35 but went up to £38 3 months before the 1.5 meg was announced

    I have since dropped to the 700 from the 1 meg, cos while I got the new Set top box for the new faster speed, it just never arrived after 3 months...and while 1 meg is nice it was £13 per month (ie a new graphics card every year) more dough.

    So while it is a good service....and I like NTL broadband very much...it is ...er....slow to arrive
    NTL did a lot of changes to core UBR equipment, but most importantly , LINECARDS.

    Telewest have linecards that are capable of 4x downstream (thats right, 4!) of 30mbit each and 6x 5mbit upstreams which users are spread upon. It wont come as a suprise when NTL improves the RF conditions, they can offer nice speed grades.

    No wonder my 3MBit Telewest line flies all the time :-) Shame upstream is only 256kbps, whilst SSH / Terminal Services is pretty responsive, it could be better.

    Personally, if NTL + Telewest merge, that'll mean portfolio merge... it'll be interesting whether Telewest keep the 'no caps' policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by këö¬t
    they don't say anything about upload speeds and they have serious bandwidth limitations. at least those of us with the old packages can keep them for the timebeing...

    ntl at the moment:-
    average ubr (universal broadband relocator (?)) has a 32MBit downstream and several 2MBit upstreams.
    bandwidth 'cap': 1GB/day - not strictly enforced.
    300k service (300kb/s down, 64kb/s up) £17.99/month
    750k service (750kb/s down, 128kb/s up) £24.99/month
    1.5Mb service (1.5Mb/s down, 256kb/s up) £37.99/month
    UBR is a cisco keyword, its a CMTS to inet router. As part of NTL's upgrade lately (and Telewest) , they're using 5mbit upstreams. I doubt it'll come too much of a problem.

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    so there is no cap on Telewest?

    How much does your 3 meg cost javalord?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purple
    so there is no cap on Telewest?

    How much does your 3 meg cost javalord?
    £50 a month split 2 ways so its not too bad. Get 3mbit all the time, which is impressive. Soon to be 4mbit / 384k upload.

    And they actively premote no caps.

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    Yeah one of the selling features of Telewest is unlimited downloads.

    Is there talk of a Telewest/NTL merger or is that just speculation?

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