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    Telnet though http proxy, how would it be mettered?

    I on occasion telnet though my works http proxy, and we are charged (our department anyways) on a per MB and per object basis. I'm not so much worried about the MB part of it, but with the http protocol the proxy counts one image, or html page as an object and i'm wondering how it would count telnet packets that are sent though the http proxy....

    The last thing I want is for my internet charges to be outrageous due to telneting, and have to explain to my boss how I managed to use it.

    Any ideas?

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    IIRC telnet is asynchronous - each character you type creates a packet. Worst case scenario is each character could count as an oblect.
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    sounds like you should find a job somewhere your network connection itself isn't nazified.
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    yeah thats pretty much what i'm afraid of, as that could easily add up considering i recieve a ton of "letters" too, way more then i send. Just curious because I can't view my usage as objects anymore like i used to be able too, only thing I could do is experiment, which could be bad as well....

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    Quote Originally Posted by atrull
    sounds like you should find a job somewhere your network connection itself isn't nazified.

    well this one is rather cushy.. have tons of "downtime" to do things and the web is where I turn.. i'm a web monkey! I cant help it!!

    That and i'm a networking nut, just not sure how it would work, suppose I should find out more about how the tunneling works....

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    personally, what I'd do if I were in your position.. is learn about tunneling ssh through dns

    search for that online - if you have a laptop it can also let you tunnel out of wifi hotspots without paying the gatekeeper
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    Quote Originally Posted by atrull
    personally, what I'd do if I were in your position.. is learn about tunneling ssh through dns

    search for that online - if you have a laptop it can also let you tunnel out of wifi hotspots without paying the gatekeeper
    Just looked that up and
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    http proxies operate by emulating the http protocol.. I'll give you an example here, when you open a webpage and it has 4 imagines, a css page, and a javascript, you are initating 7 http connections or 'objects'. However, a http proxy session is 1 connection and therefore 1 'object'.. So all you have to worry about is the amount of data sent during the session.
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    kinda, basically HTTP has peristant mode, this came about after people started embedding images in their HTML pages. In a persitantHTTP connection the whole HTTP handsaking thing is only done once, for the entire bunch of objects you want.

    not all servers, or proxys do this thou, as its 'newer'.

    what, i hope, the HTML tunneling software does, is estabilsh a persistant connection, and just hang, that is leave it open so new data just floods in. For out going, the same principle would be applied using a POST blob, as again they can keep that open for a long peroid of time (i think mabye indefinatly, but not sure) before its dropped.

    So there will be 2 'objects' in and out, each time a new char is there, it will be appended. As to if thats a new packet, well that depends on a lot of other things....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP#HTTP_versions
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus
    kinda, basically HTTP has peristant mode, this came about after people started embedding images in their HTML pages. In a persitantHTTP connection the whole HTTP handsaking thing is only done once, for the entire bunch of objects you want.

    not all servers, or proxys do this thou, as its 'newer'.

    what, i hope, the HTML tunneling software does, is estabilsh a persistant connection, and just hang, that is leave it open so new data just floods in. For out going, the same principle would be applied using a POST blob, as again they can keep that open for a long peroid of time (i think mabye indefinatly, but not sure) before its dropped.
    Personally I'd hope it uses HTTP CONNECT, much more efficient than a POST/GET kludge

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