E5200 Temps

[Jingles762]

Hello,
Ive just built my first PC (for gaming), and I'm wanting to make sure CPU temps are ok, as I had considerable difficulty fitting the heatsink and want to make sure it's doing it's job properly... my system is:

E5200 on Asus P5KC with Xigmatek 1283, with Arctic Silver5

Ive had a look all over the internet for software that gives reliable cpu temps, and they all disagree (opinions as well as actual temp readings), so Ive been going with the temps in Bios as they are the highest (keep on safe side). Just idling in bios, temps are hovering around 38-39C, does this seem ok? Mobo temp is ~29C. Airflow is all good, blowing out the back and top of case, tho case fans are on lowest setting. I think CPU fan is on max (1350rpm)

Ideally Id like to fully stress my cpu to monitor max temps, but Im not familiar with the software or how to properly go about it.

Thanks

[staffsMike]

Try OCCT for tesitng.

40 degree's is a little high but as it's the bios it may well be a fair bit cooler (or hotter I suppose).

You could try everest, that monitors pretty much everything

[Will404]

Yep thats seems ok, but rember that thouse are not too accurate. Look at this:http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...mperature.html

[Webby]

Run Orthos

http://www.overclock.net/downloads/138142-orthos.html

That will stress your CPU it should take about 10-15 minutes to get to maximum temps unless you have a real airflow issue in your case, then it will just keep going up.

Also get core temp, to um monitor your core temps! Or Everest which will monitor core temps as well as the motherboard sensor reported by the BIOS.

If your temps under load are pushing past 65oC then you probably don't have the cooler on quite right, in which case take it off and check to see that the thermal paste was evenly spread, if it squidged out all the edges then you put to much on and if the are bare patches then not enough. If it hasn't spread evenly then you probably didn't have the cooler seated properly, either way clean the thermal paste off reapply some more and try again!

[Mithrandir]

What is your ambient (room) temp? I've noticed it's a bit warmer in my room today so not sure if its also the same in your area.

Also it can take a few days for the thermal paste to work in, so if you only set it up today/yesterday it might become cooler over the week.

[Jingles762]

Thanks for the quick replies!

I ran CoreTemp, and that was giving me 35C-37C for both cores just idling in vista (But Im not sure what all the TjMax stuff refers to?!). I also have Asus PC Probe II which is saying 31C, and Bios is saying ~39C. I also have Asus AiSuite but that doesn't work, it would probs give me a different temp to all the other 3 anyway I read that different software reads different sensors in the mobo, don't know if that's it. Ambient temp is 18C today.

I researched how to apply the thermal paste to direct heatpipe heatsinks properly, so Im sure I used the right amount of paste. Although the heatsink did keep pinging off because those 775 clips wouldnt stay down, might have spread it round too much maybe...?

EDIT: I only built it a couple of days ago, so the temps may drop like you said... Still I want to make sure Im in the right ballpark

[Jingles762]

ok, I ran the orthos thing (stress cpu option), and CoreTemp was giving values of ~45 for each core after 15 mins (seemed to have stabilised by then). Do I need to set the TJ values in CoreTemp at all? Or does it do that automatically?

PC Probe was giving 42C

Anyway, I guess my processor isnt going to blow up any time soon with those temps, I guess BIOS must be telling me lies.

Thanks for the help

[Webby]

Core Temp "should" set the TJ max correctly, basically you have a number of sensors that can be read core temp determines its value from an on core digital thermal diode the TJMax is the set point and the sensor outputs a difference from this set point which Core Temp then converts to a temperature. The BIOS probably reads a sensor placed close to the CPU so depending on what cooling the motherboard receives around the CPU socket can affect the reading you get from this sensor.

Basically what you need to take away from this is none of the sensors are calibrated so no value you receive is accurate (it might be right but you just don't know!). So take all the values with a pinch of salt and as long as Core Temp etc are not telling you that your hitting 70oC then you are probably going to be alright.

[Jingles762]

Ok, I used a beta trial version of Everest, and it says my idle temps are ~40C (cores), while CPU is ~30C.

However I think CoreTemp and Everest use different TJmax values. I researched the interwebz and apparantly nobody actually knows what TJmax is, so you could just adjust it to get whatever temperatures you wanted. Intel apparantly don't publish the values...

I suppose this gives you +/- 5C or more

If suppose if I go off the over all 'CPU' temp I can't go too far wrong.

Aargh.

Thanks for help

[Thorsson]

Best way is to unload everything except your temp measure, put the fan up to max and wait 10 minutes. Your Core temp should be very close to your CPU (die) temp, and that should be very close to your ambient case temp. If the Core temp figure is cooler than either or markedly larger you should at least get an idea of how far your temps are out (it will be approx a multiple of 5C).