Death Penalty Poll - In Brief

[Jezza101]

I don't know if it's already been mentioned - but I recommend watching the documentary 14 days in May about the life of Ed EarlJohnson. I'd link to more info about it if I was allowed lol!

I think it makes many "pro" people think twice...

[robbieuk]

Against - because it is possible to wrongly convict someone

here here

[TK29]

For - if the evidence is overwhelming - eg. walks into a school and kills a no. of kids.

[CaptainCrash]

For - if the evidence is overwhelming - eg. walks into a school and kills a no. of kids.

I've never understood the "yes, but only if the evidence is overwhelming" argument - if the evidence as presented in court is "less than overwhelming" presumably they would deserve to be found not guilty anyway?

Which would leave all convictions "safe" on the basis of "overwhelming" evidence, and we could go ahead and execute all convicted murderers secure in our knowledge that no miscarriage of justice could ever possibly take place.

[shadowmaster]

I've never understood the "yes, but only if the evidence is overwhelming" argument - if the evidence as presented in court is "less than overwhelming" presumably they would deserve to be found not guilty anyway?

Which would leave all convictions "safe" on the basis of "overwhelming" evidence, and we could go ahead and execute all convicted murderers secure in our knowledge that no miscarriage of justice could ever possibly take place.

I think overwhelming would be something like clear cut video evidence, and lots of witnesses, eg school shootings.

[CaptainCrash]

I think overwhelming would be something like clear cut video evidence, and lots of witnesses, eg school shootings.

So are you saying that without such evidence, a person can still be found guilty of murder "beyond reasonable doubt", but they'd be subject to a lesser sentence, "because... errr... we're not sure it's beyond reasonable doubt after all"..? Surely they shouldn't be convicted at all under those circumstances?

[Koolpc]

DNA might be good enough too!

[CaptainCrash]

DNA might be good enough too!

Yes, it might, so it's a jolly good job evidence never, ever gets tampered with, making any miscarriage of justice impossible...

[Koolpc]

Well, if evidence is strong enough then i say hang the person or cut off thier tackle if a repist or Pedo.

[TheAnimus]

Yes, it might, so it's a jolly good job evidence never, ever gets tampered with, making any miscarriage of justice impossible...

Also hoping that the jury can understand enough probability to know whats probable, vrs whats possible.

[shadowmaster]

So are you saying that without such evidence, a person can still be found guilty of murder "beyond reasonable doubt", but they'd be subject to a lesser sentence, "because... errr... we're not sure it's beyond reasonable doubt after all"..? Surely they shouldn't be convicted at all under those circumstances?

I'm not saying anything, just giving an example of what 'overwhelming' evidence could be.

[Fuzzed_out]

I havn't read all the replies but I am against. For the reasons states by others and because my gut instinct tells me it is wrong, The link posted about the murder in south yorkshire was horrific but I would not be able to kill him myself and that further cements my stance in my mind.

Also I think it was one of saracen's post brought up the take that some people in life imprisonment wish to die and that is a merciful thing to do but then that is more a euthanasia argument (something I am undecided on but shall not go into).


Though I do think people that are imprisoned should loose some of there luxaries, it is pointless to have people freed whom then re-offened to get to the apparently "good life" behind bars.

P.S. I see alot of comment about paedophillia and I presume you talk about offending paedophiles as apose to those that restrain themselves? I just want to clarify whether or not the execution of non-offenders with what is debatibly a health disorder is supported by some of you...

[Koolpc]

I say if the punishment is death then it should be hanging. If someone has killed a child etc then it should be a painful death.

Pedos should have their tackle cut off and Pedo tattooed on their forehead.

About time this country stopped the softly softly approach and started to deal with scum properly.

[Fuzzed_out]

ahhh Koolpc, I ment to ask that in my post, if your for the death punishment, which method would you recommend. I also disagree with you though as I think a painful death means you wish to torture convicted people before killing them, which in my opinion is way way way out of bounds. It sickens me. Also again when you say pedos, offending pedos only or even those with self restraint that obey the law? (if all then that is verging on to nazi beliefs in my opinion)

[Koolpc]

Offending Pedos.

[Methanoid]

People who cannot spell PAEDO !!