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There was a leaked AMD document which mentioned GDDR5 support.It could be a DDR3 plus GDDR5 memory controller.
Seems unlikely, tbh - the basic physical layout is the same as the Trinity PHY, it just looks like the actual channels are fatter. GDDR5 is a very different memory configuration so I think it would need a physically separate controller rather than a hybrid. A fatter PHY should theoretically mean faster memory support - I was kind of expecting official DDR3-2400 support at the top end, but maybe that's to come? There's room for a 7870k or 7900k at the top end that could bump clock rates once the process has matured and hit the teraflop mark...Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
Yes, I am very interested in seeing what the overclock results are like on the 7850K to give an indication of what the future may bring.
Techradar has a hands on with the AMD Project Discovery Tablet.http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-...97/review#null
Looks pretty good to me.
Also this from DigiTimes: AMD and its technology partner BlueStacks announced a new joint solution bringing the Android OS experience to Windows-based tablets, 2-in-1 devices, notebooks and desktops optimized for fourth-generation AMD APUs. The solution allows Android to run virtually within Windows, eliminating the need to disengage from one OS before using another, and provides familiar Android interfaces, app support and direct file sharing, giving Android apps access to files stored within the Windows file system.
It seems to be a collaboration with TI:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-...97/review#null
The first Kaveri review is out:
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/art...ce-Review-529/
This is from an American boutique builder, Puget Systems and it's not very detailed but seems to be official final silicon. They don't say which drivers so the GPU performance might get better. But at least they did try various RAM speeds; seems 1600MHz loses around 10-20% of the GPU performance compared to 1866MHz. 2133MHz gains another 5% or so but might not be cost effective. NO OC or power consumption figures.
Interesting that they compare to an i5 4440 as an equivalent price product, so we are looking at an introduction price of around £137 then?
AMD have sold 7.2M console APUs so far. Sony have sold 4.2M consoles, Microsoft 3M.
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/33...2-million-sold
The A10 7850K looks an overpriced pile of fail. At that price you can get an Athlon II X4 760K and an HD7750 or HD7770. Only the A8 7600 withs it configurable 45W/65W TDP looks interesting.
Edit!!
LOL, at the lower cb r15 and single threaded scores over an A10 6800K and higher price. If this stays true in other tests then Kaveri deserves to be flamed by reviewers and even the fanbois out there. I hope at least power consumption is closer to the A10 6700 otherwise this should have been an OEM only release.
It seems their marketeers have not learned from the Bulldozer fiasco. If this review is truely indicative of performance I can see the A10 7850K price crashing hard.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 08-01-2014 at 12:28 PM.
There were comments about power consumption in the comments section, sounds like 7850K and 6800K are on par with each other as suggested by the 95W vs 100W tdps.
Richland took a few weeks to settle to a realistic price, I shan't get excited if this one turns up overpriced as well.
Judging by the and slides and the details on the process node, it seems the lower tdp parts could be potentially more interesting than the flagship parts so hopefully reviewers bother with reviewing more of the line this time!
Last edited by watercooled; 08-01-2014 at 05:50 PM.
You're not wrong. I thought the slides said it was supposed to be a 20% improvement... maybe I misread.
You mean gets heavily discounted because of insufficient demand at the intended price point?
Improvements are largely when two threads are fighting for resources on a module. I guess from the CB benchmark that it is largely floating point instructions so the old core did fine, and the new core had no chance of making up the clock speed deficit. If you adjust for clock speed, they come out about the same.
Edit to add: I think Cat is right that this is about the lower wattage parts (again). Perhaps that is why AM3+ is being left to rot, you can't get one in a laptop so it can't exist to marketing types.
Close, I meant once the early adopters with more money than sense stop fighting over the trickle of parts you normally get on introduction then the gouging will stop and the price will settle to something us sane people will spend.
My mum will need a PC upgrade soon, and it might be my first Richland build from what I am seeing here unless we get a nice shock on the price. She currently has a socket 754 Sempron, so anything is a huge improvement (no sniggering at the back, it was a super machine for the money when it was built all those years ago)
Well.. the benchmarks are a bit disconcerting. I was looking forward to Kaveri, but I'm having doubts now. I wasn't really intending to play BF4 on a Kaveri chip with out a graphics card added, so it makes me think AMD are bundling it in an attempt to justify a higher price.
Luckily the price is something AMD can just change whenever.. but as DanceswithUnix said, it'll take time.
You will be better served getting an FX6300 or FX8320 TBH. Someone at AMD must be smoking skunk to think they can charge £130 to £140 for an A10 7850K. Supposedly there is noise BF4 will be included with the A10 7850K and even then it makes it only slightly better value than an A10 6800K. The problem is that A10 6800K looks like a faster CPU at stock and I suspect it can be overclocked far more too. So we are left with the IGP only being the real improvement with the A10 7850K and even that looks rubbish.
The jump from Llano to Trinity on the same node was greater,especially with the IGP.
AMD should have just stuck with 384 shaders and devoted more of the TDP to raising the clockspeeds of the CPU section.
FFS,even make it a 3 module,6 thread part??
This was what Kaveri was meant to be according to earlier leaks of official documents.
Desktop Kaveri looks stillborn. FFS,the AMD marketeers are foolish. They should have shown reviews of the mobile parts first. However,by showing the desktop parts first,it makes it look like a sidegrade.
I really hope AMD Carrizo is out by the end of the year. If Intel plonks down GT3 as their standard IGP in the next CPU refresh,AMD are in big trouble on the desktop.
This is looking like a worse launch than Bulldozer.
At least Bulldozer was new microarchitechure,with room to grow and the performance delta between the Phenom II X6 and FX CPUs has improved as software support has got better.
However,this won't be the case of Steamroller over Piledriver I suspect.
I can see all the Intel fanbois doing a little jig of victory. AMD's rubbish marketing has struck again.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 08-01-2014 at 04:35 PM.
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