The french review has gone. What was the jist of it?
Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
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for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
Thats kinda my point, its not a full CPU core. Its almost like the terminology needs to be revisited really as it is a bit misleading in this way for the untrained buyer.
seemed to be almost at i5 level, traded some blows but overall just lost out i think. I didnt see the power figures though.
In the past,cores used to be mostly for integer operations with an FPU in addition to it,so AMD are correct in that sense. However,from a marketing perspective it makes more sense to call something like an FX8150 a quad core,as a lot of applications for PCs are FP heavy. In supercomputers,IIRC, a lot of FP heavy code is taken care of by the co-processor cards used,with the CPUs primarily for integer operations. However,it seems software is licensed by the number of cores used.
Hence,why AMD are better off using the FPU number as a core number. It makes more sense from a marketing perspective.
They are here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1318860/v...#post_18425176
Load power consumption is on-par with a Phenom II X4 955BE with lower idle power consumption.
Biscuit (22-10-2012)
Pricing is up:
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...er+FX+-+AM3%2B
Both quotes say FPU count is the better number to use?
Edit: Beaten to it.
Another review:
http://extrahardware.cnews.cz/recenz...ghz-amd-do-hry
Biscuit (23-10-2012)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/t...-fx4300-tested
Seems a lot more positive than Hexus' review.
Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
Biscuit (23-10-2012)
That Czech review is extremely thorough! I like their charts too, when you hover over a bar it gives you relative percentages which can be quite useful.
All in all its a great improvement for AMD and definitely a step in the right direction. For some users this a really powerful chip, especially for the price!
Looks like steamroller could be the one to really threaten Intel as an all-rounder though, as long as TSMC and/or GF can get their manufacturing processes down in size and power use
Not enough for me though, I'm going away for a while but when I get back, it's pretty likely I'll be switching to Intel. Gaming performance and power use under load are the main things that matter to me and AMD are still just enough behind to make an upgrade to Intel more worthwhile.
Overclocking results seem disappointing so far, anyone read a review where they managed to get 5+ stable yet?
They need to knock out some more choice 95W parts like they did with the ever so short run of 8120s.
Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
The whole debate over "how many cores?" isn't strait-forward....and like many things in computing, it depends on what you are using it for.
Really liking the looks of these chips, Intel has a bit more competition across the entire range now.
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Most workloads make only a small use of the FPU, so sharing it makes a lot of sense. With a typical binary each core will essentially see its own FPU as the out of order scheduler should be able to work around any mild contention. This only breaks down for the sorts of bulk floating point code that graphics cards should eat up. If there are decisions between FPU operations, then there is integer code and branches in the mix and the sharing should work.
My only issue with this is that AMD's drivers are still a long way off letting people run OpenCL GPU code. Perhaps they should have integrated an Nvidia GPU on their silicon, then you could benchmark eg Blender on their APU and it would make sense
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