AMD - Piledriver chitchat

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Well,the new info we were given about the PS4 SOC:
1.)Has a dedicated audio unit
2.)Additional hardware for zlib decompression.
3.)An additional system chip which can be used for background purposes,enabling the main CPU and GPU to be shut down.
4.)An additional bus for the GPU,which bypass its caches.
5.)Modified GPU L2 cache,which is better optimised for mixed compute and gaming workloads.
6.)The GPU is not straight GCN,and might be GCN2.0 and seem to be more compute enhanced. It might give us an idea of what to expect for the HD8000/HD9000 series.

This beyond what we know for Jaguar,which is not meant to be fully HSA enabled at the hardware level. The GPU also seems to have various features which enhances its compute ability.

The additional system chip is interesting.It could be a single Jaguar core,but I suspect it might be an ARM based core. If it is the latter it would make the CPU section a hybrid X86 and ARM based design.

It is Kaveri which is meant to be the first part AMD has mentioned which is actually fully HSA enabled at the hardware level. If anything if the PS4 SOC is confirmed as the first proper HSA enabled part,it is more complex than what was thought originally. It was never mentioned before that the PS4 was a HSA enabled part.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Dota II benchmarks:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/dota-2...w-32678-8.html

Yet another Blizzard game where the newer AMD CPUs are faster than the old ones.

Edit!!

Acer Temash based ultrathin laptop:

http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...%26tbs%3Dqdr:d

[Bagnaj97]

Dota II benchmarks:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/dota-2...w-32678-8.html

Yet another Blizzard game where the newer AMD CPUs are faster than the old ones.

DOTA2 is a Valve title, not Blizzard (the original DOTA was a Warcraft 3 mod). Also how's the Intel HD4000 faster than a 7660G (1080p low quality)!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

DOTA2 is a Valve title, not Blizzard (the original DOTA was a Warcraft 3 mod). Also how's the Intel HD4000 faster than a 7660G (1080p low quality)!

They are in laptops?? The memory configuration of the laptops was not listed.

[HalloweenJack]

hmmm whats the DDR3 bus? is it rated to 2133? *jaguar*

[scaryjim]

HD4000 v 7660G:

two suggestions:
1) the A10 GPU isn't boosting up to the full 685MHz that's meant to be available, either through BIOS locking (we don't know what laptop this is, after all) or thermal limitations
2) at these settings the game is still CPU limited to some extent, pushing HD4000 ahead by virtue of more CPU grunt.

I favour a bit of both, but mostly 2: the HD6450 (160sp @ =< 750MHz, 64bit memory bus) should not be anywhere near 7660G (384sp @ =< 685MHz, 128bit shared memory bus), yet is way out ahead. Use an A10-5800k limited to 685MHz on the GPU and I reckon you'd see a different result.

EDIT: as an aside, that actually looks like a nice game - anyone here play?

[Terbinator]

I play LoL if that counts?

[scaryjim]

I've got a couple of mates who play LoL, and I thought about giving it a go, but tbh I need to sell (or otherwise dispose of) my CRT and buy myself a nice 1080p TFT before I can realistically get back to gaming. Either that or pick up a Trinity/Richland laptop - anyone seen any nice ones?

I might have to give both LoL and DotA2 a go...

[Terbinator]

Prepare yourself for an utterly poisonous "community". If you can get past that and learning the basics there is a solid and rewarding game underneath for both.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Intel puts GT3E performance at HD6670 or GT640 level:

http://wccftech.com/intel-hd-graphic...gt640-hd-6670/

The HD7660D in the AMD A10 CPUs is around HD6670 GDDR3 level. The mobile HD7660G is slower.

Edit!!

OTH,Intel considers the HD4000,around HD6570 level performance.

[HalloweenJack]

DOTA2 `community` - oh your not on *insert ladder* so your not worthy of my time , insect.

[HalloweenJack]

Intel puts GT3E performance at HD6670 or GT640 level:

http://wccftech.com/intel-hd-graphic...gt640-hd-6670/

The HD7660D in the AMD A10 CPUs is around HD6670 GDDR3 level. The mobile HD7660G is slower.

Edit!!

OTH,Intel considers the HD4000,around HD6570 level performance.

hmmmm
AMD come back with ondie GDDR5?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The FX4350 and FX6350 finally show up:

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-f...-cache-4300mhz

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/amd-f...-cache-4200mhz

[kompukare]

125W TPU means the copper heatpipe cooler - same as with the 8350, right?

That cooler is meant to ok for a manufacturer supplied one. Wonder if these can be undervolted at that speed?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

125W TPU means the copper heatpipe cooler - same as with the 8350, right?

Yep.

[scaryjim]

Anyone know if those clock speeds are base or max turbo? I'd assume max turbo based on the clocks of the 4300/6300?

GT3e will only be available in a very small selection of incredibly expensive ULV processors as far as I know. It's basically Intel's 7990/Titan: a halo product that makes everyone think good thoughts about the rest of Intel's range. It may end up being the fastest mobile IGP, but at what cost? How many people are going to spend £2000 on a laptop just to have the fastest Intel IGP, when it's no faster than a midrange discrete card? AMD look like having a good product stack to sew up the low-end and midrange market - going to be an interesting time for mobile computing. Just need to find a way to melt my Acer so I can justify a new laptop