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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Would it be safe to say for me to buy a 6300 to replace my X3 450 ???
    I not into overclocking so the 95w is right for me ?!!

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Can't see that happening. x86 supercomputing is a halo product, and the whole Bulldozer modular architecture is highly optimised for server workloads. Of course, AMDs aim is to persuade the server market to move more towards heterogenous computing and shifting parallel code onto GPUs so they can sell APUs to the server market as well. But I can't see them ever abandoning the high-end x86 server market, which means there should always be some kind of product to feed down to the enthusiast market.

    Perhaps they'll consolidate on 2 server sockets, one for 1P-2P systems and one for 2P-4P systems, then make specific 1P chipset/motherboards for the low-end server socket. That might make some sense, and it reduces the number of platforms they have to support. After all, they've been stuck with the same basic chipset layout for pushing 10 years now - got to be time for a change soon, surely...?
    I was looking at what was mentioned by their board:

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...rtunities.html


    Quote Originally Posted by MrNeil View Post
    Would it be safe to say for me to buy a 6300 to replace my X3 450 ???
    I not into overclocking so the 95w is right for me ?!!
    It would be an upgrade:

    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/189?vs=699

    However,I will give you some words of advice and I hope you take note of it!

    If your games and applications are running fine,then stick with what you have.

    If there is an issue:
    1.)Check the software

    It might be just a bad patch or some other issue which can be resolved be a re-installation,waiting for a new patch or getting a third party application(think of Skyboost for Skyrim),or even fine tuning game settings.

    2.)Check the hardware

    Make sure everything is working fine.

    Too many websites and users on forums,will always talk of bottleneck here and bottleneck there,when in reality it really does make as much impact to your final user experience.

    Always,only upgrade when you have determined it is a hardware performance limitation.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    I think the most demanding i have got is BF3 which i have running on ultra with a fps rate between 28 and 50+ at times !! (some people think my system cannot achieve that )

    So i guess i should save my money then ?

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by MrNeil View Post
    I think the most demanding i have got is BF3 which i have running on ultra with a fps rate between 28 and 50+ at times !! (some people think my system cannot achieve that )

    So i guess i should save my money then ?
    Yeah! If it runs fine for you,then save your money. Don't worry about extreme measurebators,they are only trying to line their egos and drain your wallets. Most of the sub £100 market is ignored by them too. They will also gladly give an indication if that you don't have a £170 to £250 CPU or a £250+ graphics card,you are incapable of using your PC for anything other Facebook or its too "slow" as it is "bottlenecked massively" or something along those lines. It seems being a PC enthusiast is more about how much you spend nowadays!! Now expensive hardware has its place too,but like I said if you happy stick with what you have.

    Don't get me wrong,if you are getting new PC parts,check reviews to see what sort of product you are getting,but like I said the logic leading to why you are upgrading is more important.
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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Im a bang for buck man My DDR2 board before the one i have now took me 3 months on off research for mobo,cpu and memory !!

    It paid off for me and since a small DDR3 mobo and ram upgrade i have noticed a difference in some newer games

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Athlon II X3 CPUs for their time were very good value. Three of my mates have them - one unlocked to a Phenom II X4 with L3 cache,another to an Athlon II X4 and third was overclocked to around 4GHZ. They only cost between £55 to £65 too. They were paired with either an HD5850 1GB or HD6870 1GB and seem fine with a plethora of modern games.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Hopefully this hasn't been posted yet, but here's a video on the FX range from NewEgg TV.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    i say if you have money to burn... burn it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyboardDemon View Post
    Hopefully this hasn't been posted yet, but here's a video on the FX range from NewEgg TV.
    Thanks! They changed the heatsink design on the 95W TDP versions of the CPU!! The AMD rep called it a S2 design which is quieter.

    BTW,the Intel-AMD flame wars in the comments section is hilarous!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    i say if you have money to burn... burn it!
    New CPU time??

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    no point for me at the moment, im gunna be working on site/at my parents for christmas in a couple of weeks, might aswell wait until im back.

    Also just bought a car and planning a couple of holidays

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    I was looking at what was mentioned by their board:

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...rtunities.html
    It sounds to me like most of that is aimed at the Kabini low end cpu that is out 1H next year.

    http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...-and-28nm.aspx

    Low wattage quad core 28nm chip would make for rather nice micro-servers.

    I think most companies are still in the mindset of big iron though, and want lots of cores. They can get that these days on just 2 or 4 sockets, but that still needs something like Hypertransport to mesh the processors together, and that means AM3+ for now.

    DDR4 will force a socket change, I expect we won't really know what is happening until that timeframe.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    has anyone tried overclocking the 8320 yet? Curious to see if that can hit the same speeds as the 8350 without affecting temps/power draw too much meaning you can effectively save yourself ~£15-20?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    It sounds to me like most of that is aimed at the Kabini low end cpu that is out 1H next year.

    http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...-and-28nm.aspx

    Low wattage quad core 28nm chip would make for rather nice micro-servers.

    I think most companies are still in the mindset of big iron though, and want lots of cores. They can get that these days on just 2 or 4 sockets, but that still needs something like Hypertransport to mesh the processors together, and that means AM3+ for now.

    DDR4 will force a socket change, I expect we won't really know what is happening until that timeframe.
    AFAIK,at least for the server loads they are thinking about I suspect more cores makes more sense - Intel is even releasing an 8 Atom! I wonder if this means for the tasks these servers are performing,single thread performance is less important,but the number of threads needed to be run is high. A more powerful core in that case would be running at low utilisation,hence wasting resources??

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    has anyone tried overclocking the 8320 yet? Curious to see if that can hit the same speeds as the 8350 without affecting temps/power draw too much meaning you can effectively save yourself ~£15-20?
    It could be quite a nice CPU for the price. Even if did overclock the same amount as the FX8350 and went closer to £120,I expect the derping on the internet with people suggesting something like a Core i5 3570 with a £5 motherboard found in a Mesh PC would now do the job,etc.

    The FX8350 does quite well in any new games based on newer engines:

    http://techreport.com/review/23750/a...sor-reviewed/5

    CryENGINE 2 and Frostbite 2 thread well. Even legacy performance is not that bad at all(nearly 80FPS in Skyrim).

    That review is done with an HD7950.

    The idTech 5 engine also does well too with even the older FX8150:

    http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph4955/41704.png

    http://www.extremetech.com/wp-conten.../11/RageVT.png

    Due to the Megatexturing id Tech 5 uses,the engine seems to like more threads.

    I think with the newer engines such as UE4,id Tech 5,Frostbite 2 and CryENGINE ,the FX8300 series will be competitive. With the newer consoles coming out I expect to see more and more games use such engines.
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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    has anyone tried overclocking the 8320 yet? Curious to see if that can hit the same speeds as the 8350 without affecting temps/power draw too much meaning you can effectively save yourself ~£15-20?
    If you want to overclock, I would think the extra few quid is worth spending. There is some luck of the draw involved, but I would expect AMD will be binning the silicon to some degree in which case you can push the luck your way slightly.

    OTOH, the 6300 seems to have a low base clock to fit in the 95W TDP and it is the only 6 core part. That would be the interesting budget buy to me if you want to overclock.

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    Re: AMD - Piledriver chitchat

    With just a £5(aria) to £10(OCUK) difference between the fx4300 and fx6300 who the hell is going to buy the 4300? Ok, its base clock is slightly faster, but its turbo clock is slower, it has less cache and 2 fewer cores - such a slight price increase for a huge performance increase is a no brainer.

    I foresee FX-4300 price cuts in the not too distant future...

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