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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Interesting Gamer's Nexus video benchmarking the old 1090T in modern games and applications, following on from one they recently did on the FX 8370.

    I don't think it is a big spoiler to say it doesn't do that well, even the FX 8370 only manages to equal the modern Athlon 3000G with the Phenom failing to even run one benchmark as it doesn't have the instructions to work in the DX12 mode that they always benchmark the game in and clearly didn't want to throw those results away and re-do them in DX11.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igjrJ7qH3_8
    I wish they tested the Core i5 750 and Core i7 860 too - it will be interesting to see how the former fared,as it was similar price to the Phenom II X6(or a bit more expensive).


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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    I wish they tested the Core i5 750 and Core i7 860 too - it will be interesting to see how the former fared,as it was similar price to the Phenom II X6(or a bit more expensive).
    The series is quite new so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't switch to old Intel chips now given AMD didn't really upgrade FX past the 8370, just putting later cores into low cache dual module APUs so AMD are done at this point. Unless they do a cookery episode with the 9000 series

    I would be more interested in the 3570K as that was the CPU I nearly got when I went for the FX 8350, though from memory it was something like £190 for the faster Intel chip vs £140 for the FX and I do like cheap The gap seemed to close between the two chips over the years to my amusement, but who knows what it is like now.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    The series is quite new so I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't switch to old Intel chips now given AMD didn't really upgrade FX past the 8370, just putting later cores into low cache dual module APUs so AMD are done at this point. Unless they do a cookery episode with the 9000 series

    I would be more interested in the 3570K as that was the CPU I nearly got when I went for the FX 8350, though from memory it was something like £190 for the faster Intel chip vs £140 for the FX and I do like cheap The gap seemed to close between the two chips over the years to my amusement, but who knows what it is like now.
    Well,from what I have seen,the FX8300 series were closer to a Core i5,but newer comparisons,seems to have pushed it closer to a Core i7,IIRC.

    It seems HUB have done an FX8370 video now:
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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    I wish they tested the Core i5 750 and Core i7 860 too - it will be interesting to see how the former fared,as it was similar price to the Phenom II X6(or a bit more expensive).
    send me the tests. I'm on i7-870 and GTX460 (win7). I can compare to Ryzen 3900x and same GTX460 (win7 and win10)

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    ... I would be more interested in the 3570K ...
    I'm pretty sure the better half's desktop is a 3570k... is it a reasonably runnable set of tests or would I be shelling out daft money on software to run it? (yes, I'm too lazy to watch a youtube video ).

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    I'm pretty sure the better half's desktop is a 3570k... is it a reasonably runnable set of tests or would I be shelling out daft money on software to run it? (yes, I'm too lazy to watch a youtube video ).
    Benchmarking like that is a ton of effort, needs a fresh Windows install for consistency and you need to know exactly what settings were used in game.

    ... then there is the fatal blow for a cheapskate like me, you need access to a 2080ti

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    ... you need access to a 2080ti
    Well, if anyone's happy to "lend" me one, I'll put the effort in....

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    send me the tests. I'm on i7-870 and GTX460 (win7). I can compare to Ryzen 3900x and same GTX460 (win7 and win10)
    We could try another Hexus benchmark thread,like with the Handbrake one. Gaming ones probably won't be doable though.

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Benchmarking like that is a ton of effort, needs a fresh Windows install for consistency and you need to know exactly what settings were used in game.

    ... then there is the fatal blow for a cheapskate like me, you need access to a 2080ti
    When I did my GTX1080 review,it took days of benchmarking!


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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    Well, if anyone's happy to "lend" me one, I'll put the effort in....
    I'm guessing the benchmarking could take months at that point

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    I'm guessing the benchmarking could take months at that point
    Well, I'd have to fit it around "work". And I'd have to test the card thoroughly to make sure it was working properly...

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    We could try another Hexus benchmark thread,like with the Handbrake one.
    Are there any currently active Hexus benchmarking competitions? I'd be interested to see how my 3700X compares..

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    I was going to get a more modern GPU too but then pay cuts... so that kiboshed that.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Tom's managed to buy a Renoir 4750g Pro and has a review out;
    https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...-renoir-review
    Results are a bit of a mixed bag.
    Good overclocking results especially memory.
    Very good IGP results despite the lower CU count.
    Okay application performance.
    Not so good dGPU performance. Having a quarter of the L3 cache has a big impact.

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozaron View Post
    Are there any currently active Hexus benchmarking competitions? I'd be interested to see how my 3700X compares..
    Not yet!

    Quote Originally Posted by kompukare View Post
    Tom's managed to buy a Renoir 4750g Pro and has a review out;
    https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...-renoir-review
    Results are a bit of a mixed bag.
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    Very good IGP results despite the lower CU count.
    Okay application performance.
    Not so good dGPU performance. Having a quarter of the L3 cache has a big impact.
    It also indicates memory-CCX latency isn't the main issue with Zen2 gaming performance,its CCX-CCX latency.


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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Some 6W Zen+ based low power parts for educational laptops have been released:
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/15953...-for-education
    At that price they looks like good laptops period. Those athlons would be interesting in a single-board computer - only 6W but cheap, full fat x86, and a modern GPU (they'd make a great media centre in something like the odroid H2).

    I can only find results for the 3200U (which is a fair bit faster than these chips), but it's about twice as fast in single-threaded cinebench than the atom J4115 (same multithreaded performance, as there's twice as many cores)

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    Re: AMD - Zen chitchat

    Quote Originally Posted by Xlucine View Post
    At that price they looks like good laptops period. Those athlons would be interesting in a single-board computer - only 6W but cheap, full fat x86, and a modern GPU (they'd make a great media centre in something like the odroid H2).

    I can only find results for the 3200U (which is a fair bit faster than these chips), but it's about twice as fast in single-threaded cinebench than the atom J4115 (same multithreaded performance, as there's twice as many cores)
    The only downside is the eMMC storage IMHO,but they should have enough grunt for web browsing,etc.


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