360 or PS3?

[directhex]

In response, i think its strange to say online sucks? when

a) Works fine for me - countless games of motorstorm with no issues/drop outs.
b) its free

Please elaborate on your personal experience on your PS3 that leads you to this conclusion?

okay, an example.

i pre-crated a PSN account in my name, on the playstation europe site, when the opportunity became available - to make sure nobody else did. "directhex". simple enough, right? i then came to actually use it. now, when you boot up an xbox, it highlights over the list of accounts on the system, with the two options directly below it as 'register a new account' and 'recover existing account'. simple enough. on the ps3? well, nothing obvious. no way to recover an account. in the end, i ask the system's owner. it turns out that first you have to create a local account, then bind it to the online account. fair enough, okay, not exactly obvious but no problem. local account made, time to bind. email address, password, done. "yay, you're attempting to bind. we have new terms! agree to them!" oh, erm, okay. "enter email address and password of person agreeing!". gah. fine. there. "new terms agreed to!". oh. am i done? "no! please enter email address and password!". oh. um... again a THIRD time? "yes! okay, now you're bound! but not logged in. please enter email address & password to log in"

beyond the anecdotes, there's the lack of coherent store (the psn store is nasty to browse, it's obviously tuned for web browsing not using with a pad); the lack of simple play with friends (xbox live makes it simple to see what games people are playing and join in). at least they fixed background downloading.

In regard to the pad - i much prefer the PS pads to the xbox ones. If you mean the rumble feature i personally have no issue with it - neither does the wife

i've disliked sony's attempt at dual analog since the PSX days.

Games wise - Tekken dark res\Ninja Gaiden Sigma/Motorstorm/The Darkness keeping me more than happy.

cookie-cutter sequel, xbox port, reasonable title, reasonable multi-platform game. and not a single one worthy of the sticker shock of the ps3 as a games machine. and no, i don't like resistance either, it feels like an uninspiring late-90s first person shooter.

[PenguinJim]

it's a better HD player (let's face it, blu-ray has won)

I live in Europe, where HD-DVD is winning.

And it's quite concerning that in the US, Blu-Ray is only a notch ahead. Blu-Ray has higher capacity, has more studio support, and allegedly outsells HD-DVD on a daily basis. So why is it only just winning? Should be beating HD-DVD into a bloody pulp, but it's not in the US, and it's losing in Europe. Wowsers.

By the way, mods:


Eight of Barrichello's ten thanks are from gtech thanking him for saying the PS3 is great. Is there any way to disable gtech's thanks? I found the thanks system to be a really good way of showing appreciation in the Shopping section and in the Help section, but when an "informed forum user" like gtech cheapens it to such a degree, and it can be perverted to provide Barrichello with ten thanks, it's not really a system worth having. 'Thanks for saying good things about the PS3'. Eight times. (Is it just me? Am I the only person who likes the Thanks system and hates to see it abused like that?)

Interestingly, this thread made me reconsider buying a 360. Before deciding against it again due to the noise and the breaking and me having a good PC and not having an HDTV.

[Stewart]

Playstation pads have always rox0red. Mind you the 360 ones were fine as well, apart from being crap for playing Street Fighter III 3rd Strike.

'uninspiring late-90s first person shooter.'

Halo 3 isn't out yet, is it?

[shadowmaster]

I live in Europe, where HD-DVD is winning.

I would not go so far and say it is winning in Europe. How can you conclusively say that?

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33444/118/

I dont think anyone can really predict which one will win, or which one is winning at the moment. You can look at statistics, but statistics can be used to prove just about anything.

[PenguinJim]

I wasn't trying to predict which one would win. HD-DVD was winning eight weeks ago in Europe when, during a slow day at work, I caught up with everything that had been happening. Thanks for that US article about America, though - handy link.

And I agree with you completely - it's too difficult at this stage to say which is winning overall right now, and more difficult to say which one will win.

I'm not putting my money on HD-DVD - I'm just not putting my money on Blu-Ray, either.

[TDX]

Loving the PS3. I use pretty much everything it has to offer. And boy does it offer alot. Its very polished compared to 360 and Wii. Very snappy. Online is excellent. Resistance is definately a most excellent game to showcase online play. Not to mention the online service has been brilliantly tweaked as of late and still free! Blu Ray is amazing. You havent lived till you have seen a movie in 1080p HD.

Games wise its been solid but quantity of games are lacking compared to 360. But that will be sorted this christmas. Also the lineup will look quite different with many console specific games and not stuff i will get on my powerful pc. 360's problem is the lack of specialisation, it seems to struggle doing everything in comaprison to the PS3. You need so many addons to match the PS3 out of the box. So much hassle. The UI on 360 is very unstable, slow and messy compared to PS3. HDD is not standard on every system. Seperate rechargeable battery pack for wireless controllers. HDMI mess. MS certainly got the boxes ticked but in a bad way. It should be 360 beta not release. No arguments about heating please!

Wii is nice considering what it is but its not my type but i do enjoy Nintendo party games! I find it sad that gamecube did so bad since Wii seems worse to me quality wise. But after who wants to be seen as a couch potato(360, Ps3)?

[shadowmaster]

I wasn't trying to predict which one would win. HD-DVD was winning eight weeks ago in Europe when, during a slow day at work, I caught up with everything that had been happening. Thanks for that US article about America, though - handy link.

And I agree with you completely - it's too difficult at this stage to say which is winning overall right now, and more difficult to say which one will win.

I'm not putting my money on HD-DVD - I'm just not putting my money on Blu-Ray, either.

No problem, I now understand the point you were making. Anyhow if one of these formats does not win soon (ie in a years time), I am going to join the fun, and make my own format . All I need is a good name. Anyone got any ideas?

[Agent]

360's problem is the lack of specialisation, it seems to struggle doing everything in comaprison to the PS3.

*everything* that's one heck of a statement!
They both have their advantages and disadvantages, I guess it just depends on which side you fall on when needing the features that each have to offer.

You need so many addons to match the PS3 out of the box. So much hassle.

But thats the point, not everyone NEEDS the add-ons. If you do, you buy them, if not, you save some money. How can buying a wi-fi adaptor and clipping it on the back be hassle?

The UI on 360 is very unstable, slow and messy compared to PS3.

heh, IMO the interface on the 360 is much better than the PS3's. Its just a preference thing. Hows in "unstable" though?

HDD is not standard on every system.

Why is that an issue though? Its the same as the wi-fi thing; if you need one, buy one, if not, save some cash
Granted, there are very few people who would probably not want the HD, but I guess the option is nice for the people who don't have the money for top end kit.

Seperate rechargeable battery pack for wireless controllers.

Which is an absolute god send!
Easy to swap out AA battery's if caught off guard and easy to replace when they come to the end of their life

HDMI mess.

HDMI is nice, but how many home users will gain anything from it? I guess the percentage is fairly small (and if HDCP will ever happen is another story), but I agree, they should have built it in from the start really.

MS certainly got the boxe ticked but in a bad way. It should be 360 beta not release. No arguments about heating please!

Hey, the heating is good foe the winter

[Stewart]

And on, and on, and on, and on...

PS3 looks slicker and is a neater package with BlueRay in the box and that, 360 has a bigger selection of AAA titles at the moment.

ENOUGH! (Buy a Wii)

[Stringent]

Upgrade your PC. Games are way cheaper and there are a lot for PC now anyways. Also I'd like to pit a PC vs Console in an FPS shooter. The PC gamer would win, keyboard and mouse just rule.

Just thought I'd offer another view!

[beanbandit]

360 has a bigger selection of AAA titles at the moment.

Not sure i agree with you on that. I have Oblivion, GOW, PGR3 & FM2, yet none of them have managed to keep my interest for more than a few hours, yet people call these AAA titles. I currently believe that none of the consoles out at the moment have a AAA title between them.

The Wii has Metroid, Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart to look forward to. The current Zelda as much as being a great game is just the same as the GC version with possible some graphic improvements but mainly the controller support for what is a GC port. I want to see a proper Zelda for the Wii.

360. Oblivion was just a bore fest, with some useless DLC (horse armor!) GOW just didn't seem to have sort of storey line worth playing through. I think that Bioshock will be the first AAA title with Halo 3 being the second (if they get the story right, and some of the stuff for MP seems ground breaking)

PS3. I'll be honest and say that i haven't played on a PS3 yet, but looking at its current line up, its in need of games, and quality games at that. Hopefully games like UT3, Lair will help it out a bit. But its not going to get a AAA title until next year when games like, LittleBigPlanet, MGS4 and possible GT5 (if they bring something new to re-energise the brand)

[directhex]

Upgrade your PC. Games are way cheaper and there are a lot for PC now anyways. Also I'd like to pit a PC vs Console in an FPS shooter. The PC gamer would win, keyboard and mouse just rule.

Just thought I'd offer another view!

pc ports of first-person shooters have supported keyboard & mouse for years (UT & Quake3 on dreamcast, and many since then on ps2, with plans for ps3 too)

and you'll get your chance in ut3 apparently, where cross-platform play between ps3 and pc is promised (as is choice of controls on both)

[Agent]

Not sure i agree with you on that. I have Oblivion, GOW, PGR3 & FM2, yet none of them have managed to keep my interest for more than a few hours, yet people call these AAA titles. I currently believe that none of the consoles out at the moment have a AAA title between them....

But thats just game preference though. Whats one mans AAA title, is another mans annoyance

[directhex]

But thats just game preference though. Whats one mans AAA title, is another mans annoyance

metacritic scores:

the elder scrolls 4: oblivion: 94%
gears of war: 94%
project gotham racing 3: 88%
forza motorsport 2: 90%

where does the line get drawn for AAA?

[Agent]

where does the line get drawn for AAA?

After AA I guess?

[Stewart]

At the risk of repeating what Ade said, obviously personal opinion comes in to it, but overall there are far more games on the 360 that are considered AAA titles than on the PS3 at the moment. As you would expect for a console thats been out a good while longer.

Gears of War, for instance, is an AAA game, regardless of what you personaly think of it. It ticks all the boxes.