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    Just chipping in to the first page

    It should come out, after all we have been waiting long enough for Halo2!

    Also if the keyboard is THAT bad, I can always use my USB Xbox 360 controller lol

    I dont see any PS2 gamers complaining about their beloved exclusive that is the GTA series going onto the 360 or PC

    Or for that matter Toca for the pc going to consoles, or maybe even Far Cry (not exactly the same but you get the idea)

    Currently I am getting sick of PC games being 360 ports, need for speed carbon and Double Agent for a start, the amount of graphics tweaking options is horrendous (Double agent max res 1280x1024...WTF?!?!?) !
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    lol guys just get a 360. you wont be disapointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by finlay666 View Post
    Just chipping in to the first page

    It should come out, after all we have been waiting long enough for Halo2!
    and if it does ever see a pc release, expect to wait a similar length of time

    Also if the keyboard is THAT bad, I can always use my USB Xbox 360 controller lol
    so why not just play it on an xbox 360?

    I dont see any PS2 gamers complaining about their beloved exclusive that is the GTA series going onto the 360 or PC
    the control mechanism is only a small part of what GTA is, and the keyboard/mouse combo has been balanced (the lock-on targeting system has been removed on the pc versions, and enemies' aim improved). as for xbox/360 versions, does it matter? it's a tiny change from dual shock to an xbox pad.

    Or for that matter Toca for the pc going to consoles, or maybe even Far Cry (not exactly the same but you get the idea)
    far cry isn't on console.

    far cry instincts, a different game specifically designed for console, and a number of sequels, are.

    Quote Originally Posted by finlay666 View Post
    Currently I am getting sick of PC games being 360 ports, need for speed carbon and Double Agent for a start, the amount of graphics tweaking options is horrendous (Double agent max res 1280x1024...WTF?!?!?) !
    given 360 games will run at most resolutions up to 1920x1080, that's a problem with the port, not with the source material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    and if it does ever see a pc release, expect to wait a similar length of time

    so why not just play it on an xbox 360?

    the control mechanism is only a small part of what GTA is, and the keyboard/mouse combo has been balanced (the lock-on targeting system has been removed on the pc versions, and enemies' aim improved). as for xbox/360 versions, does it matter? it's a tiny change from dual shock to an xbox pad.

    far cry isn't on console.

    far cry instincts, a different game specifically designed for console, and a number of sequels, are.

    given 360 games will run at most resolutions up to 1920x1080, that's a problem with the port, not with the source material.
    I appreciate the length of time issue for Halo2, in all honesty I couldnt give a hoot about it being released on the PC as there are far better FPS games coming out before it, and I dont fancy paying full whack for a game that was an exclusive to an ex gen console

    why not play it on the 360....because I dont want to spend nearly £300 on a console + current game when for <£30 I can play it on my computer! Also I dont have the HD tv etc to enjoy it because simply I dont have the space, however I do have space for a moderate pc monitor, and sitting closer means it seems a similar size

    for the GTA yes it does because there were a lot of complaints when it no longer was an exclusive because it also meant sony had lost a lot of its selling power because they couldnt use it as a means of encouraging people to buy the console
    "Buy this console, this is the only format this game is on"

    same with the "only for xbox360" tag on the games/adverts really

    I know far cry isnt on consoles, why do you think I said
    "not exactly the same but you get the idea" ????

    As for the porting, it shouldnt be an issue, what is an issue however is that it is clear it is a poorly done job, I mean for a PC current gen game to not include an option to change the AA is a bit poor really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finlay666 View Post
    I mean for a PC current gen game to not include an option to change the AA is a bit poor really.
    You might like the how original releases of NWN2, Gothic 3 and Oblivion didn't support AA? NWN2 only does via a patch, Oblivion only does if you have an X1*** or 8**** card, and Gothic 3 doesn't, full stop

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    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    lol guys just get a 360. you wont be disapointed
    I would, but I only have two thumbs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    You might like the how original releases of NWN2, Gothic 3 and Oblivion didn't support AA? NWN2 only does via a patch, Oblivion only does if you have an X1*** or 8**** card, and Gothic 3 doesn't, full stop
    *points to my sig for oblivion remark*


    and in fairness the games I would want AA on is stuff like FPS's and racing games....as I used those solely as examples
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    Ah, I don't see sigs, that'd be why But Oblivion with 6xAA and angle independant AF is really really nice *hugs his x1950xt*

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    Why don't you lot just wait for UT2K7 - that's what you want on a PC. Gears just wouldn't be anywhere near as good an experience as it is on the 360, on the PC
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    I am doing - gears isn't my kind of game at all

    finlay, stick your specs in the 'my system' link - that's what it's there for

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    I am doing - gears isn't my kind of game at all

    finlay, stick your specs in the 'my system' link - that's what it's there for
    I've updated em, strange they were there before, oh well
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    finlay, stick your specs in the 'my system' link - that's what it's there for
    Im a fan of the traditional sig, its also the most accurate system I have currently lol (no wc and a p5b deluxe instead of the DS3)

    Its far easier for me to change a photobucket pic than it is all my specs on all the forums lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by kempez View Post
    Why don't you lot just wait for UT2K7 - that's what you want on a PC. Gears just wouldn't be anywhere near as good an experience as it is on the 360, on the PC
    Personally I want SupCom...esp with all the free promo stuff I am going to get from work lol

    but yeat UT2k7 looks a stonker, as does crysis...I wonder if crysis will make it to the 360 some day...

    As for GoW, I wouldnt be suprised if it does come out sooner or later, or maybe the sequal on the PC aswell
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    why not play it on the 360....because I dont want to spend nearly £300 on a console + current game when for <£30 I can play it on my computer! Also I dont have the HD tv etc to enjoy it because simply I dont have the space, however I do have space for a moderate pc monitor, and sitting closer means it seems a similar size
    for the cost of a graphics card, you get some kit that will happily plug straight into your monitor, and allow you to play a selection of (different) good games at their best. why is this a bad thing?

    for the GTA yes it does because there were a lot of complaints when it no longer was an exclusive because it also meant sony had lost a lot of its selling power because they couldnt use it as a means of encouraging people to buy the console
    "Buy this console, this is the only format this game is on"
    this is two issues.

    for exclusivity, you're correct. game development isn't cheap. someone needs to hand over money to support a large staff on a development team. they're not going to essentially hand free money to competitors by allowing "their" game onto other systems. in this instance, gears was published (and funded) by microsoft game studios, who have a vested interest in keeping as many exclusive titles on 360 as possible. that exclusivity typically lasts for 3-4 years, after which epic are free to do what they want (however, they may well decide not to release a pc version of gears even if allowed to, to avoid tainting the franchise with a broken port)

    however, business aside, exclusivity doesn't MATTER, as long as the game is still fun. for example, resident evil 4. it's a prettier and easier to control game on its original format (gamecube), and lost exclusivity with a playstation 2 port (a couple of extra sections made up for the graphics loss). it's still a great game, but i prefer it on the cube. but the keyboard-and-mouse pc port? that annoys me, because it damages the game.

    same with the "only for xbox360" tag on the games/adverts really
    "same with"? what does that mean?

    I know far cry isnt on consoles, why do you think I said "not exactly the same but you get the idea" ????
    no, that's you utterly and totally missing the point.

    far cry isn't on consoles. a far-cry-based game, that's another matter. but far cry would SUCK on a console. i'm attempting to say that the same applies in reverse for a game like gears. it's designed for the ground up not to need a keyboard & mouse. they could make a different game that made full use of the controls on a pc, but it wouldn't be gears of war any more than far cry instincts is far cry.

    As for the porting, it shouldnt be an issue, what is an issue however is that it is clear it is a poorly done job, I mean for a PC current gen game to not include an option to change the AA is a bit poor really.
    so you're arguing that lacklustre ports of games from one platform to another without massive rewriting of several technical points suck? i agree entirely. which is why gears shouldn't be on pc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    for the cost of a graphics card, you get some kit that will happily plug straight into your monitor, and allow you to play a selection of (different) good games at their best. why is this a bad thing?

    "same with"? what does that mean?

    no, that's you utterly and totally missing the point.

    far cry isn't on consoles. a far-cry-based game, that's another matter. but far cry would SUCK on a console. i'm attempting to say that the same applies in reverse for a game like gears. it's designed for the ground up not to need a keyboard & mouse. they could make a different game that made full use of the controls on a pc, but it wouldn't be gears of war any more than far cry instincts is far cry.

    so you're arguing that lacklustre ports of games from one platform to another without massive rewriting of several technical points suck? i agree entirely. which is why gears shouldn't be on pc.
    as I said I dont have the space, TV, 360 the lot currently (I even have to leave my Wii at home currently at uni!!)

    same with.....as in its a similar story with...matter of speech

    As for far cry sucking on a console why do you say that? with the right design a console FPS cant be great....taking timesplitters 2 as a rough example of an fps done well on a console (and goldeneye of course..)

    yes I do want decent pc versions, which is why gears 2 should be made for the 360 and the PC

    And I dont really need to buy a 360, console gaming isnt hugely my thing (although I do like to use the controller for something like a driving game) but I think it would be good even if it was a poor port lol
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