Gears of War for PC.....No time soon

[directhex]

as I said I dont have the space, TV, 360 the lot currently (I even have to leave my Wii at home currently at uni!!)

who said anything about a tv?

same with.....as in its a similar story with...matter of speech

so you're advocating doing a platform-specific version of a game designed for optimum experience, rather than straight ports? what a phenomenal idea, if only someone had already mentioned it

As for far cry sucking on a console why do you say that? with the right design a console FPS cant be great....taking timesplitters 2 as a rough example of an fps done well on a console (and goldeneye of course..)

can you imagine playing far cry with a pad? honestly? given the aiming & sneaking elements versus the AI? try plugging in a pad & playing it on a pc with one? reckon that'd be fun? no, of course not. goldeneye and timesplitters are fun games designed for use on a console. they suck on a pc (as anyone using an emulator with mouse-based aiming will tell you). gears is a game designed from the ground up for play on a console. they could potentially do a game based on gears, far cry instincts style, but it wouldn't be the same game, and that's not what people keep asking for in this thread

yes I do want decent pc versions, which is why gears 2 should be made for the 360 and the PC

are you offering to fund epic the 7-8 figures required?

And I dont really need to buy a 360, console gaming isnt hugely my thing (although I do like to use the controller for something like a driving game) but I think it would be good even if it was a poor port lol

why do you think that? what possible basis is there for that?

[dangel]

for exclusivity, you're correct. game development isn't cheap. someone needs to hand over money to support a large staff on a development team. they're not going to essentially hand free money to competitors by allowing "their" game onto other systems. in this instance, gears was published (and funded) by microsoft game studios, who have a vested interest in keeping as many exclusive titles on 360 as possible. that exclusivity typically lasts for 3-4 years, after which epic are free to do what they want (however, they may well decide not to release a pc version of gears even if allowed to, to avoid tainting the franchise with a broken port)

Exclusivity only really matters in terms of keeping it off rival formats - the PC isn't a rival for the 360, the PS3 is (for example). From MS' point of view they've a vested interest in both platforms (PC/360) anyway and seem to be bringing the formats closer - same dev tools, 360 controllers work on PC etc etc. - moreso than in the era of the first XBOX.

Personally, I don't see GOW being 'unportable' to the PC in the sense of it becoming any worse, it just depends on how much effort the developer is willing to spend rejigging the game for a new format.

Oh well, plenty of PC games coming anyway

[finlay666]

who said anything about a tv?

so you're advocating doing a platform-specific version of a game designed for optimum experience, rather than straight ports? what a phenomenal idea, if only someone had already mentioned it

are you offering to fund epic the 7-8 figures required?

why do you think that? what possible basis is there for that?

erm I would need one as my monitor cant support the refresh rate needed to play it properly lol and I tend to use my pc a LOT, like pretty much all the time im awake

The second part im not even going to dignify with a comment as it stinks to high heaven of sarcasm (if its not please do let me know)

I wouldnt, that is what the publishers do.....Microsoft for instance

I think it would be a good game because thats my personal opinion......... and judging from the game reviews/hype from the shop i work in/hype from the professional 360 AND PC game developers that come into where i work and enjoy a nice chat with most wednesdays, (which also includes one of the main designers from Venom studios (part of 2k games) (nice chap, likes to play WoW) had to decide which PC features of Prey to leave out from the 360 version because of bandwidth issues as well as issues that they cant use the hard drive for storing any tempory files on, as a result the voices function had to be removed.

I wouldnt know if thats something reasonable to base my personal opinion or not though.....im probably going to be criticised for being bias towards the 2 parts of the industry i want the game from/to....

[djwhizzkidd]

People who dont buy 360's because they cant get their head round not playing games on a PC - YOU ARE MISSING OUT !

[finlay666]

People who dont buy 360's because they cant get their head round not playing games on a PC - YOU ARE MISSING OUT !

I can, I have a Wii......and im moving in with some mates in the summer who do have a 360....no point buying when i can wait and use it for free!

[directhex]

erm I would need one as my monitor cant support the refresh rate needed to play it properly lol and I tend to use my pc a LOT, like pretty much all the time im awake

which refresh rate would that be?

I wouldnt, that is what the publishers do.....Microsoft for instance

indeed. he who pays the piper calls the tune. in this instance, MGS want it as a 360 exclusive, and so it will remain, at least for now.

I think it would be a good game because thats my personal opinion......... and judging from the game reviews/hype from the shop i work in/hype from the professional 360 AND PC game developers that come into where i work and enjoy a nice chat with most wednesdays, (which also includes one of the main designers from Venom studios (part of 2k games) (nice chap, likes to play WoW) had to decide which PC features of Prey to leave out from the 360 version because of bandwidth issues as well as issues that they cant use the hard drive for storing any tempory files on, as a result the voices function had to be removed.

you've read reviews for gears of war, a 360 game. not some fictitious pc game with keyboard & mouse

and please, don't presume that i don't have friends, family, and personal experience with the game development process

I wouldnt know if thats something reasonable to base my personal opinion or not though.....im probably going to be criticised for being bias towards the 2 parts of the industry i want the game from/to....

not biased, merely short sighted

[finlay666]

which refresh rate would that be?

indeed. he who pays the piper calls the tune. in this instance, MGS want it as a 360 exclusive, and so it will remain, at least for now.

you've read reviews for gears of war, a 360 game. not some fictitious pc game with keyboard & mouse

and please, don't presume that i don't have friends, family, and personal experience with the game development process

not biased, merely short sighted

50hz, but its a monitor that really does suck for fast paced games because of the response time, i get ghosting quite bad sometimes

well that doesnt mean it wont happen though

and you have seen and played the game with a keyboard and mouse? why so adament it wouldnt work?

And I didnt say that you didnt at all, just that an associate has dealt with an exceptionally similar situation, however the other way round....and I think Prey was marketed as a pc exclusive (i may be wrong though) so they would have had their work cut out for them there...

[directhex]

50hz, but its a monitor that really does suck for fast paced games because of the response time, i get ghosting quite bad sometimes

50hz? we're talking about THIS generation of kit, not four years ago's generation.

well that doesnt mean it wont happen though

indeed. but not for a long time, at which point it'll get a "halo 2 for pc" reaction

and you have seen and played the game with a keyboard and mouse? why so adament it wouldnt work?

because there is no way to directly map the current gears movement ethos onto a pc, without either breaking it (and giving pc owners what they think they want) or pissing off users (by making the controls feel "all over the place" when used with a mouse)

And I didnt say that you didnt at all, just that an associate has dealt with an exceptionally similar situation, however the other way round....and I think Prey was marketed as a pc exclusive (i may be wrong though) so they would have had their work cut out for them there...

prey's primary target platform was pc, and that's where it plays best. would i buy quake 4 for 360? hell no - it was designed for pc, and that's the best place to play it.

[finlay666]

50hz? we're talking about THIS generation of kit, not four years ago's generation.

indeed. but not for a long time, at which point it'll get a "halo 2 for pc" reaction

because there is no way to directly map the current gears movement ethos onto a pc, without either breaking it (and giving pc owners what they think they want) or pissing off users (by making the controls feel "all over the place" when used with a mouse)

prey's primary target platform was pc, and that's where it plays best. would i buy quake 4 for 360? hell no - it was designed for pc, and that's the best place to play it.

sorry its 60Hz not 50, my mistake, but it does my job fine for working and programming on my pc for my assignments

if it doesnt come out for the pc for something like 4 years yes I would be suprised...id rather wait for duke nukem:when? lol

no way to directly map the controls...http://uk.gear.ign.com/articles/747/747672p1.html
they seem to think it works fine

And just because YOU wouldnt buy a game doesnt mean no one will? im sure there would have been some successful game on the 360 you didnt buy

[directhex]

sorry its 60Hz not 50, my mistake, but it does my job fine for working and programming on my pc for my assignments

and would work with a 360 with an official vga cable, which was my point

no way to directly map the controls...http://uk.gear.ign.com/articles/747/747672p1.html
they seem to think it works fine

"without either breaking it (and giving pc owners what they think they want) or pissing off users (by making the controls feel "all over the place" when used with a mouse)"

And just because YOU wouldnt buy a game doesnt mean no one will? im sure there would have been some successful game on the 360 you didnt buy

success and good are rarely linked.

just look at the people who buy fifa football games

[kempez]

Hex doesn't mean you CAN'T, he means it won't be as intuitive...in fact it will not be Gears of War...it'll be UT2K7

This argument is pointless - you won't and don't see the legitimate argument Hexah is talking in his own personal (and quite experienced afaik) point of view. A point of view that makes perfect sense to a lot of people.

MS want this to the 360 for a while....well whoopee, they support, helped develop and part funded the damn thing

There's a load of games out this year for PC and a lot of them won't be on the 360...will you be complaining about that?

[finlay666]

"without either breaking it (and giving pc owners what they think they want) or pissing off users (by making the controls feel "all over the place" when used with a mouse)"

doesnt seem it from looking at the COD3 example video on youtube

oh well, agree to disagree I guess

and yes i do look at the people who buy fifa games lol, and also the ones that then come to trade said game in for the newer one! although the pc market is reasonably more geared towards quality games as PC gamers tend to read a review/play a demo instead of just going to buy it

[finlay666]

There's a load of games out this year for PC and a lot of them won't be on the 360...will you be complaining about that?

depends on the game really, I would be annoyed if something that would be clearly designed for multiplayer on the same scren was on the PC and not a 360


and I do see the other point of view this does make sense to me (however not a perfectly clear point of view to me coming from a non 360 player POV), I am merely providing a different point of view which in some aspects challenges that and in others matches

[kempez]

and I do see the other point of view and id does make sense to me (however not perfect from a non 360 player POV), I am merely providing a different point of view which in some aspects challenges that

You lost me at "id"; sorry

[finlay666]

sorry, spelling mistake and not very clear I'll edit the post

[j.o.s.h.1408]

I would, but I only have two thumbs!

save up if your desperate to play gow. believ you me guys just get a 360!! why people compain that its not on pc is beyond me.