Smoking Ban........noooooooo!

[Howard]

Smoking Ban........ woooooooo!

Fixed


Don't think there's anything else that needs to be said really

[M0nkeyb0Y]

I just feel everyone that does not smoke has a voice and people that smoke do not

Because they've had half their throat removed right?!
Sorry - poor taste!

[HoldenBurn1000]

Because they've had half their throat removed right?!
Sorry - poor taste!

i was waiting for that from someone

[mosherben]

From a comedian
"Wouldn't it be creepy if there was a whole family who had voiceboxes? [voicebox]
Son: Dad, can we go to the beach?
Dad: Yes, get your mum and the dog
[/voicebox]

Or the ultimate irony, someone with a voicebox pulling up to a drive through menu: [voicebox]
Customer: Can I have a quarter pounder burger with fries?
Employee: Stop making fun of me
Customer: I'm not making fun of you
Employee: I'm getting the manager
Customer: You can get the manager, I don't care
[/voicebox]

[zashark]

What a crock of S**T, what a stupid law

[HoldenBurn1000]

What a crock of S**T, what a stupid law

At least i tried to give reasons Blunt and to the point though lol.

[TooNice]

It's the one thing I missed from Scotland when I went to Madrid.

[Bazzlad]

It's beautiful. It works fine in New York, and I tell you something, it removes part of the hangover.

I've worked out a hangover is made of 3 parts:


1) Alcohol intake (Varied with Water intake)
2) Tiredness
3) Smoke inhalation


I figured this out by going out and removing one of the 3 elements and seeing if hangover lessened.

Not being in a smokey pub genuinely helps the lack of hangover, stops be stinking of smoke and cuts my chances of cancer. Now I like a drink, but because you are out with me, I am not going to keep forcing you to drink some of my beer. That's the problem with smoking, it's a hobby/habit that affects everyone in the room, like it or not.

The splitting of pubs into smoking and no smoking wouldn't work. Friendship groups would be split, how many pubs would choose to alienate customers, you'd end up with a handful of novel no smoking pubs.

It's all or nothing basically.
Most pubs have outdoor sections, get used to canopies and heat lamps!

[Elmo]

jeezo! you people need to get a grip! we've had the smoking ban for the past year and it's a million times better going out than it was before. and believe it or not, the smokers don't actually mind going outside, it's like a little social group outside pubs now.

honestly, you're not being deprived of your human rights or any piffle like that, just bloody well get on with living your lifeand stop being such poncy drama queens!

[Tumble]

If you want to be inside, then erect a transparent, hermetically sealed room within the pub (transparent so you can see out of it) Install an airlock, and keep the inside of the room at a negative pressure - that way, any smoke in there stays in there, and you don't have to go out in the cold and rain (though ye should ye filthy beasties)*









*[mild mannered humour, not really pointed at anyone

[McMav]

Best thing we did up here in Scotland can goto the pub and not come home smelling like I've been in a forest fire. Also going to a resturant you dont get the ass who dicides to light up a cigar as soon as he's finished his meal and you are about to start yours.

Hope you enjoy the ban when it comes in as much as I have. Mind you you have to do the smokers run getting in and out of the pub but its only a few seconds rather than a few hours in the place.

[Rave]

I think the new law is ridiculous nanny statism. IMO if it was bad for a pub's business to have smokers in it, then they'd simply ban smoking themselves. I saw a pub up in London a couple of years ago that advertised itself as non-smoking- and I daresay that they wouldn't have done that if it made them unprofitable.

Back when I didn't smoke (much) I used to accept it as a fact of life that if I went out clubbing, or spent 6+ hours in a pub, I'd come back smelling of smoke. My view is: if you don't like smoke, don't go to a smoky pub. As far as I know, pubs/bars in places where a ban has been introduced notice an immediate loss in takings, and AFAIK they're yet to reattain pre-ban levels of trade.

Having said that, the smoking ban apparently has an approval rating among the general populace of 80% or more. 27% or so of the populace are smokers. Clearly, the ban has an enormous popular mandate and as a democrat I have to accept that. I'm not happy about it, but it's a popular law.

My Grandad is 86 (I think). He used to smke cigs, but for 35 years or more he's smoked a pipe. I can well remember him saying, probably 10 years ago now, that when he was at his bridge club people used to say that they quite enjoyed the smell of his pipe smoke. In my late teens, when I turned up after a night on the ales and smelt it first thing in the morning it used to make me feel a bit queasy, but apart from that, I like the smell too. When I smell it now, it reminds me of him. From July, he won't be able to light a briar over a game of bridge- the two true loves in his life, since he was widowed at the aged of 63. To me, that's harsh.

Basically, I think that the absolute sweeping finalism of the law is unnecessary. Pubs- sure. Working mens clubs, where typically 60%+ of the patrons smoke- it's silly. These venerable institutions for working class people to meet, socialise and consume cheap alcohol are essentially going to be made unviable- and that really is a shame. My wife's cousin is a member of one, and as guests we've spent a few enjoyable evenings there. It's a good night out, and for the members, a valuable social network.

Their uncle (as in my wife's and her cousin's) has been a member for decades. He had a bad motorcycle accident in the 60's and suffered brain damage. His wife left him and took the kids. Since then the club has been his social lifeline. I don't know if he used to smoke- he certainly doesn't now- but that club is everything to him and if it folds he'll be a lonely old man.

I could go on and on about my views on smoking, including whether I'll give up- I've decided that I enjoy it too much, but if my wife got pregnant I'd quit as soon as I saw the second line on the test- but who knows if that'll happen? Ultimately, I think this is a prime example of good intentions turning into a bad law. Once again New Labour's 'well meaning' legislation is set to screw over the working people they were founded to represent.

[finlay666]

As long as all smokers can get free treatment to stop smoking via the NHS I'm not bothered

I'll happily go outside for a cigarette if I want one, do it at home and do it at work, not a problem for me

Just one problem........I think the student places are going to reek of BO, vomit and general sweat now..... Place I went in in Edin when I went up to see my mate just after the ban had come in stank but not of smoke, I'd rather smell of smoke than of poor personal hygeine

just my £0.02 anyway

[iranu]

I like rave's take on things. I remember fondly my the smell of my dad's pantellas when he smoked and it was a nice smell. Stale cigerette smoke is not pleasant though.

I think it's appaling that this will hit certain establishments the hardest.

The whole problem with this issue is the badly drafted law.

It's very simple.

People who smoke want the freedom to do so and should be allowed to do that IF the bar owner allows it.

People who DO NOT smoke want the freedom to enjoy the pub without smoke and should be allowed to do that IF the bar owner allows it.

So instead of this rediculous catch all ban there should have been a compromise.

And that compromise should be either smoking only sections that are not part of the bar serving area and separated from the non-smoking area by physical partition. (not a crappy sign)

Or

An air quality standard that would force better air filtration/extraction equipment to be used.

I can understand the 'elf and safety side of it with regards to staff (hence the separate bar serving area) but I think a ban is too extreme. It smacks of the nanny state telling people what to do rather than coming to a proper solution.

I've always found it odd that I have never been in a pub that bans smoking. I don't smoke generally although on the odd occasion I like a cigar with a drink just for teh record.

[Lucio]

The ban is a good thing because it prevents those who choose not to smoke from having that choice taken away.

However I believe it should have included a provision for the creation of designated smoking areas that were seperate and distinct from non-smoking areas (e.g. closed rooms).

[Kezzer]

If you smoke, smoking in the pub really is the least of your worries.

So true.