uni offers

[Swafe]

Hey there, does anyone know anything about uni offers?

Ive got an offer from Warwick Uni, which is stupidly high (350 Ucas points) to anyone who dont know - thats BBB at a level, and B at as level.

now ive been predicteed BBB - whether i get it or not is another matter, and have a C at as.

Just saying I did get it , and got a total of 340 points would they let me in? or are they strickt and require exactly the amounts of points they offer?


Id like to go there, and if I work my ass off I stand a chance, but I cant be bothered if I know I stand no chance and need ABB at a level to stand a chance..

[directhex]

it depends on the demand for the place, and how far off you are. My girlfriend missed her main choice by 2 (old) points, she phoned them up almost straight away, and they said "no problem welcome aboard"

other unis on more sought-after courses may not be so accommodating

[streetster]

most unis will accept you if you dont reach the points if you phone them or something... I applied to Southampton and they want 390points (AABb) which is a little insane, so i'll prolly have to phone them up to beg to get in

what did you get last year for your a/s levels?

Mark

[shiato storm]

i truely b*ggered my a-levels, and they still let me in with BCE (at UCL)...and now i'v done an MSc too...even if you're just slightly off the mark you'll be fine.

[Sibu]

Like direct hex said, it depends on the demand for the place. If lots of people want the place, its harder (i'm assuming it will be as its warwick) Phoning up a lot does help tho.

Not everyone does get in if they don't get the grades...mate missed an A by 3 marks, and wasnt let in because of it

[revol68]

BBB what sort of tits have u got missy.... seriosuly these uni's expect the impossible

[Saracen]

.... seriosuly these uni's expect the impossible

How do you make that out?

Universities have a limited number of places for specific courses, and limited overall funding. They cannot take everybody that wants to go, and that means they can set grades requirements that reflect the calibre of students they are seeking for a given course. The better the course, and the better the Uni, the higher they can set their standards.

Warwick has a top class reputation, certainly in some subjects, and always has had. So they have a lot of people wanting to do those courses - more than they can accomodate. The result - they set grades that keep the bar high. This is, perhaps, harsh to those that cannot make the grades, but then to do it any other way than on academic merit means by direct implication that someone that DOES have the grades would lose out to someone that does not. That is hardly fairer.

Also, to some degree at least, the grades required to get ON the course reflect the standard that is going to be set once the student is there. If standards are not set at the requisite level, students will struggle, or fail, once they get to Uni. It's better to keep standards for a demanding course high than to lower the entry standards and then either have to lower to course standards or face a high drop-out rate.

Maybe I'm just an old cynic, but as a Warwick Economics graduate, albeit from about 25 years ago, I'm not sorry to see them keep their requirements high. In my day, Warwick had a reputation about on a par with Cambridge and the LSE for Economics (and similar standing in some other disciplines, like Law, Marketing, Engineering, Industrial Relations, and so on - almost enotrley due to funding from what was original Lord Rootes and Rootes Motors - hence the strength of discilplines thatwould be of interest to the car industry). as I understand it, they STILL have a top-class reputation in those, and similar, subjects, and it's because they keep standards high.

It may have changed since my day, but I found that Economics at Warwick required that you be pretty decent at maths. At some Uni's, the focus of an Economics degree was on politics, or on history, but at Warwick there was a HEAVY maths emphasis. This came out sporadically during the course, but the final year course in Econometrics???

Oh boy.

And THAT is coming from someone that did Maths A-Levels, that loved maths, and that did several Uni maths courses simply for the fun of it (they were NOT counted towards my results, but I asked the course tutors if I could attend anyway). And if I found that Econometrics course hard going, pity those that hadn't noticed the maths emphasis in a Warwick economics course before they started. Oooops.


I'll get off my soap-box in a minute (), but the overriding lesson from all this is that the world doesn't owe anybody a free ride.

Swafeman, I doubt anybody but the Warwick authorities could answer your question with any degree of accuracy. The requirements are set at a level where they feel they will get all the satisfactory candidates they need, allowing for a percentage that fail to get the grades they expect. How flexible they'll be will depend on the level of demand they have for the course, and perhaps on what percentage of applications actually get the grades they expect. If they fall short of filling the course, they'll be flexible to a point, but if the course is massively oversubscribed with candidates that DO match the stated requirements ........

[directhex]

don;t forget that unis offer about 6x more places than they have - because people only go to one of their 6 options. whether this works for or against them is more or less a dice-roll year after year

[shiato storm]

...a-levels are getting easier now anyway. now everyone is getting A's or B's...
'back in my day...[rant rant rant]...kids have it easy now...[rant rant rant]...'
not as many people use to go to university - but now its as though everyone goes, which isn't a bad thing, unless you consider mickey mouse degrees such as fashion or something. i had a look at a current ucas book, i couldn't believe the number of ridiculous degrees they have set up now. just doing them as a way for people to simply 'get' a degree.
I know most out there are worth it but the mind boggles at how some got allowed.
add to the fact the government has ensured that uni's WILL lose millions in the recently passed bill - looks like uk's higher education is doomed...gonna be like it was when only a few get to go

[Kezzer]

I got a couple of my offers. I need 240 points to get in the highest chosen course which is an AB and claiming for key skills level 3 as there's no way i'm going to get an AA.

[Swafe]

what did you get last year for your a/s levels?

Mark

I got BBBC, and I dropped the one i got a C in, so BBB, and a C at AS

If I get this , thatsa big IF - i know I can get 2 B's, its maths Im worried about Ill be on 340 points...so I dont know whether to bother re-doin my year 12 computing coursework - with this years coursework being worth 40% its goin to be a helluva lot of work...I dont know whether to try for just 340 and see what they say..

[Kezzer]

That's what i'm worried about, i might get a BB which means i'll be 20 points under :/

[dgr]

you think your hard done by

I had an AAAA offer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sucked ass

[Kezzer]

I don't want to choose the course below then find out i got the grades to get into the course i wanted to. I'd regret it

[directhex]

hence you make a main choice & an insurance choice should you miss the main one. you can lean on them to let you in if you miss the main one, and if not then no loss because you still have the insurance choice

[Kezzer]

Ah sweet, didn't know that. Cheers hex