If you want car reviews watch Fifth Gear, if you want lunacy, crashes and fire watch Top Gear. I think there's enough room in the world for both...
I would rather Jeremy Clarkson was giving the reviews, not particularly a fan of Fifth Gear - but I will watch it if I catch it, but never bothered if I miss it.
And they never seem to get access to the same cars as Top Gear.
fifth gear is nothing more than a tacky spinoff without the fun...
TG had the perfect recipe around and before series 7 or so. Excellent car reviews, good challenges (like the Disco up a mountain and the races) and plenty of fun like the £1,000 Porsches.
Now it's all cutting cars up and features like the absolutely awful caravan holiday they showed. That was, while amusing in parts, so blatantly scripted it was cringeworthy. Same with the convertible they made.
It's still very good in parts, but the sheen has gone now it's all so dumbed down and scripted. It was always scripted, but written in a way so you were usually left not knowing how planned some of it was and how much was pure hamfistedness.
Yeah agree with all that.
A few years ago they were Clarkson, Hammond and May, sometimes reading a script.
Now they are pretty much playing 3 characters; the challenges now are so scripted and have so much acting in, its practically a sitcom.
Good idea - the boys go and do that good idea - you film them doing it. Thats good tv.
The three of them pretending to get into scrapes, while reading from a script isn't as good.
Its entertainment. If it didn't have underlying scripting, I imagine it would be an hour of Clarkson doing doughnuts and the other 2 farting and giggling.
Beer is life, life is good!
Apparently the episode is under investigation after complaints regarding Clarksons comments about killing prostitutes. :/
On the upside - granny/kid/dog in the Lambo had me in bits. Utterly superb.
Anyone else seen this ??? I mean come on..........................If you watch Top Gear you know Clarkson is going to come out with that kinda thing, and for the most part people find it funny.
Director Brian Tobin called the comment "highly distasteful and insensitive".
So taking that point he does not like any comedy at all? All comedy is offensive to someone I just think some people go over the top with their complaints.
And back on topic- So glad Top Gear is back
Thing is, in light of recent events, they should have been more strict and careful on what they show.
Even the reaction to the Ross and Brand thing was way over the top! I mean what's more embarrassing those messages that were left (didn't not find it that funny really) or the the truth of what the granddaughter actually does???
Basically, yes some comedy does go too far but if we start to regulate it by saying you can't say that etc...... Then what's the point of having comedy. At the end of the day no matter what comedy it is someone will be offended by it! Well tough! I have been offended by some remarks even from Clarkson, but i let it go. Thats only because i find a lot of it funny.
on topic: Anyone know what the big race challenge will be this time?
When I read this story this morning, about the complaints being made, 188 had officially complained, they also stated that Top Gear had a peak viewership of 7.9 Million.
By my calculations, if everyone was watching at the point of the comments being made only 0.0023% of the viewership complained. Even if only 4 million were watching at that point, thats 0.005%.
0.005% (possibly) of people in this country found it offensive enough to complain? 0.005%? Seriously, whats the point in even acknowledging the issue. If it was 1% maybe, even 0.05% but 0.005% (if only half the peak viewership were watchng remember).
If they had actually killed a prostitute I could understand the issue, but it wasn't, it was a comment.
And on the Ross/Brand issue, when it gets to the point where someone who dances for a group called "The Satanic Sluts" can take the moral high ground, we need a big reality check
"I've heard there is a common problem with this item from forums" - If you read some forums they believe Elvis was abducted by aliens, doesn't mean it's true.
AledJ (05-11-2008)
I'd like to hear jeremy's views on this tbh.
Personally, it's Clarkson. You expect stuff like that. He's said similar in previous episodes and it's been let go. It's just people jumping on the nanny-state bandwagon again.
There is a MASSIVE difference between the comments made by JC and the Brand/Ross incident
JC made a remark about a group of people and didn't single one person out. He also made the remark out of jest, not out of spite.
The problem is that we have picked up the worst Americanism out of the lot, we can't take a joke and laugh at ourselves any more.
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So to sum up it was a weak show, more to do with the egos of Messrs Clarkson, Hammond and the other bloke than cars, it contained the obligatory 'edgy' remark to check if viewers still have a pulse and it seems things can only get better. The sooner Russell Bwand and Jonothan Fop take over the better. I want to be entertained by ppl screwing in the back of the car The Stig is mute in and I want it lustily narrated in their customary jabberwocky as it happens. Now that's TV!
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