MJ Dead???

[CaseyV9]

no1? what about elvis when he died? i wasn't alive at the time but im sure people worshipped him and were sadden just like with MJ.

he wasnt a angel either. too drugs etc from what i have heard. Like someone said, true legends blessed by god usualy have a short life span.

look at bruce lee. another wasted life

Drugs are a little different from what MJ was accused of. As you say, a very talented person.

But he just didn't seem geuine. An example being his song black/white. So why get surgery to make himself white?

[j.o.s.h.1408]

Not here to argue, that's just merely my opinion on MJ overall, aside from anyone or anything else.

did my post come across bad on your behalf? if so i wasnt trying to dispute your feelings towards MJ, i was just saying how elvis was worshipped the same as MJ.

[HSK]

No worries Josh, I get what you mean, but I still think they are two seperate situations etc, I don't think you can compare those characters, even though they are both highly worshiped.

K, thats it. Otherwise it'll head down the wrong road.

[Steve A]

But he just didn't seem geuine. An example being his song black/white. So why get surgery to make himself white?

I personally think he was a totally genuine guy and his biggest flaw, if you are a god to honest guy then other people and the media will crusify you for it as they assume you have some ulterior motive, most people are motivated by money and MJ had plenty of it, at the end of the day he was an easy target and still is.

Do i believe all the things in media about him? .... Nope

[CaseyV9]

I personally think he was a totally genuine guy and his biggest flaw, if you are a god to honest guy then other people and the media will crusify you for it as they assume you have some ulterior motive, most people are motivated by money and MJ had plenty of it, at the end of the day he was an easy target and still is.

Do i believe all the things in media about him? .... Nope

I think that was a big problem for him. He was a very vulerable person and also an easy target. Having never never ranch. You can see what alligation would come next.
And those court cases wiped him out and left him in debt.
I do not believe all the media have said.
Still, I do not think he was as genuine as he made himself out to be.

And to this day I find it hard to come to decission in my mind on the person he was.
Before I think it was a case of you have your opinion of him and then you have your opinion of his music.

So as this thread is about the the man and his passing I am not sure on my point of view on it.
I'm not going to slag the man off. But I'm not going to call him a god and forget all that has happened.

[Mossy]

But I'm not going to call him a god and forget all that has happened.

why what has happened, the stuff you heard in the media? The stuff he was not charged for.

Agreed he was a wierd guy but we don't know the true reasons behind this. All I know is his Music will never be forgotten.

[CaseyV9]

why what has happened, the stuff you heard in the media? The stuff he was not charged for.

Agreed he was a wierd guy but we don't know the true reasons behind this. All I know is his Music will never be forgotten.

Not the media. The court case. I feel that if it was not for money he would be in prison. But if he did not have the money would he have been accused? He did buy himself out the first accusation.

[j.o.s.h.1408]

Post of the day for me so far:

A long time ago, I accompanied a family friend on a trip to her home town in Spain. I was very young (barely a teenager), and deep down I didn't want to go without someone my own age, as she was much older (50<60). After a few days there, I remember sitting in my room and crying because I just wanted to go back home. I was not enjoying the experience, especially since the family friend was the only person in the small town that spoke good English. And I could only count to 10 in Spanish. But one day I plucked up the courage to go on a little walk with some of the local kids. There were about 20 of them, and they did their best to communicate with me with the limited English they had. We stopped at sat in a circle in a little woodland area, and I remember them singing some songs that I had no idea of. But then suddenly, someone looked at me with what I can only describe as an 'obvious' look on their face, and said "Michael Jackson". From out of nowhere it was as if everyone spoke perfect English as we sang "Man In The Mirror". Despite the tears I had cried the night before, and the anxious days that would lead up to my flight home, for that one moment in that day, I was really happy. And despite the language barrier, and the cultural differences, we were all just so... together.

When I was a kid, Michael Jackson was without doubt the most amazing and coolest person in the world for me. Him, and Michael J. Fox because he went back to the future and was a teen wolf. I wasn't the crazy and obsessive fan, but I did have all the Michael Jackson music, posters, calendars, videos etc. Some of which have withstood the test of time, whilst others haven't. And the rest have been passed on to various family members, who all love his work.

Not one Xmas goes by without the Jackson 5 Christmas album being played in my family home. I remember the time when my sisters were all dancing in the living room whilst my parents were out, trying to learn all the steps from the Thriller video when it was first released. It is such a happy image that I have from my childhood. I also remember how excited I was when the world premier of the new "Bad" video was about to be shown on tv. But I think my most vivid (and proudest) memory I have was when I and my 5 friends came first in a dancing competition with our Smooth Criminal interpretation. We were good, and we deserved to win. If only video cameras were so easily available in those days.

Last night, I was in total shock as I watched the news reports. But waking up this morning, the realisation of his death has really hit me. As I reminisce to past performances via YouTube, and catch snippets of his music videos on the televesion, I am struggling to fight back the tears as I watch my first "idol". Even as I write, what has now become a longer post than anticipated, I get a bit teary eyed.

It was always said that Michael Jackson had global and worldwide appeal. As a young boy I never truly understood what that meant, or how incredible it was for a person of colour to achieve that. It's only later when I looked back at a simple moment in a small town in Spain I could finally appreciate what it means.

"It is said that the mark of greatness is when everything before you is obsolete, and everything after you bears your mark." I love that quote. And for his work, I find it easy to attribute it to Michael Jackson.

[chrism]

A shame really, from the King of Pop to Wacko Jacko, it's a sorry way to end it.

Hope his kids pull through ok.

[Singh400]

Post of the day for me so far:

The correct link is this. Didn't know you was at AVF mate!

[samcross]

He was undoubtedly the biggest name in pop, and it is a great shame. But I cannot feel too sad about it when there are many others that will die today, some of which will of done the world a greater service than he did.

My condolences go to his friend and family, and all the people that spent hundreds of pounds on tickets to see his comeback...

[TAKTAK]

Sony Comments on the Passing of Michael Jackson


NEW YORK, NY – June 25, 2009 – Michael Jackson, one of the most widely beloved entertainers and profoundly influential artists of all-time, leaves an indelible imprint on popular music and culture.

Commenting on his passing, Sir Howard Stringer, Chairman, CEO and President, Sony Corporation, said: "Michael Jackson was a brilliant troubadour for his generation, a genius whose music reflected the passion and creativity of an era. His artistry and magnetism changed the music landscape forever. We have been profoundly affected by his originality, creativity and amazing body of work. The entire Sony family extends our deepest condolences to his family and to the millions of fans around the world who loved him."

Rolf Schmidt-Holtz, CEO, Sony Music Entertainment, said: "Michael Jackson's unsurpassed artistry and beloved music brought joy to every corner of the world. We join today with his millions of fans in expressing our profound sadness and we offer our deepest condolences to his family and loved ones. It was a true privilege for all of us in the Sony Music family to work with one of the most talented superstars in the history of music. We will miss him greatly."

Martin Bandier, Chairman & CEO of Sony/ATV Music Publishing, said: "Michael was the kind of amazing talent that comes along once in a lifetime. He was an incredible recording artist, an insightful businessman, an unmatched performer, and a true icon. To all of us at Sony/ATV Music Publishing, he was also a trusted and passionate partner, who was very proud of our accomplishments. He will be dearly missed. We wish his children and entire family our deepest condolences."

Five of Jackson's solo albums – "Off the Wall," "Thriller," "Bad," "Dangerous" and "HIStory," all with Epic Records, a Sony Music label – are among the top-sellers of all time. During his extraordinary career, he sold an estimated 750 million records worldwide, released 13 No.1 singles and became one of a handful of artists to be inducted twice into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The Guinness Book of World Records recognized Jackson as the Most Successful Entertainer of All Time and "Thriller" as the Biggest Selling Album of All Time. Jackson won 13 Grammy Awards and received the American Music Award's Artist of the Century Award.

Michael Jackson started in the music business at the age of 11 with his brothers as a member of the Jackson 5. In the early 1980s, he defined the art form of music video with such ground-breaking videos as "Billie Jean," "Beat It" and the epic "Thriller." Jackson's sound, style and dance moves inspired subsequent generations of pop, soul, R&B and hip-hop artists.

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[Blademrk]

RIP MJ, sad loss

[TooNice]

Sad loss indeed. RIP

[wesleyaldred]

RIP Michael, a truely sad loss, a true icon.

[pollaxe]

Sky News is reporting (via TMZ) that the family are claiming MJ was given an overdose of Demerol on Thursday and that his personal doctor is currently 'missing..'