The FAA certificate allows you to fly a G reg plane anywhere in the world, including to France. The trap is that unlike the JAA PPL it won't let you fly a french registered airplane. You will be limited to uncontrolled airspace and SVFR at night, but in the UK that's not a problem. It's also because of FAA rules, rather than UKCAA. The conversion may be the best of both worlds.
If you're planning to buy an airplane at some point, then an N registered airplane is the way to go, especially if you plan to get an instrument rating which, from a regulatory standpoint, is made very difficult for JAA.
Interesting; seems like this was only recently clarified! You can fly a G-Reg wordwide VFR in controlled airspace, but only IFR in class F or G. Interesting indeed..!
Edit: Further investigation seem to reveal that this is tricky. The CAA has, on different occasions, stated that it IS allowed, and then that it is NOT allowed unless an agreement is reached with each destination country. It's one of the all-too-common murky situations that aviation licensing is riddled with.
For what it's worth, the French and Germans have apparently both OKed it; but when EASA hits, in 2012, it's anybody's guess what will be allowed. They still haven't even managed to work out what will happen to IMC holders...let alone the even tinier subset of people this question applies to!
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So am I correct in saying if I do a FAA PPL, then a JAR course, I hold both licenses so can use whichever is best depending on the regulations of the land I'm in? From my googling that seems to be the case?
Also the idea of a proper IR I would find quite good, partly because I'm a geek who likes that sort of thing, and also just because of my experiences walking down at my parents in Cornwall (when my Dad was recovering from Chemo we would try and do a decent few km every time I was down) at just how incredibly quickly it can go from cloudless summer day to 100m visibility.
In which case TeePee thanks for the advice, it seems a no brainier to do FAA then conversion! I assume I could even do the conversion in blighty, which if I decide to join a club near me, I'm sure they'd prefer.
So much reading to learn so little, I'm starting to appreciate how confusing and badly written most aviation rules are.
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Yes, you can then hold both licenses. In fact, if you get the FAA IR, it can be used as evidence in the UK to get an IMC rating "for free"; for as long as that rating lasts, anyway...
Now that's universal worldwide!
If I had not moved here and were flying for fun in the UK, I'd be looking for a share in a relatively modern N-reg single, something like a Mooney or Bonanza, with advanced avionics. That would probably be a reasonable 5-10 year goal. Very capable in the IFR system and with long enough legs for almost anything in Europe.
Also consider that if you like this flying thing too much, it can lead to a ruined career in England and a new career making peanuts. I've heard that can happen.
Hmm, so I think my plan should be FAA PPL in the states come March, then do a JAR conversion once back in blighty at a local club where I like the vibe (and craft).
You know what my parents find infuriating, I've not got round to getting a drivers license (frankly, the notion bores me now, before I never had the money growing up, was desperately saving for uni, now in London, well I make better time on my semi carbon hybrid....).
Also there are two clubs that just happen to be in fairly easy cycling distance of me (15km)
Ok, so FAA PPL in march is the plan.
Are any hours I do in the UK loggable to such a thing?
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Yes, all of them, as far as the FAA is concerned.
The FAA has specific requirements on number of hours and types of flights (3 hours night, 20 hours dual, 40 hours total, etc), but all apart from 3 hours can be done anywhere, and with a foreign instructor if required.
However, many schools offer training under a different set of rules, as a complete course, and they may only accept some of the training you've done for credit on these courses. Most schools will work with you.
im not surprised by the lasers at all, it repeatedly in the news and well, its minority being stupid. I have collection of "high" powered lasers that do reach 2km ranges and well i know better that pointing it at planes cars people etc, but
ebay lasers
even though they may be as cheap as that, i guarantee you thats a genuine 5mW pointer that will genuinely reach 2km (i know since i bought one and measured the distance on my friends private farm)
since they are that cheap and so easy to obtain, even the most brainless people could get them and point them at anything. TBH im actually surprised theres been noting serious in heathrow so far
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