Zakky in here...

[peterb]

I have an open fire, but I know it is inefficient, with a lot of heat just going up the chimney. The fireplace is just a bit to small for a woodburner without it looking out of place. However, it is still on my wish list!

[0iD]

Do you have grinders reducing the fuel & blowing it into the combustion chamber to increase efficiency? I used to design those & mahoooosive ones for solid fuel power stations too.

[mycarsavw]

Pics, stop typing, share pics!

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[Phage]

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I have one of these.
http://www.stovax.com/stoves/traditi...n_7_stove.aspx
in a 1906 house. Remember to get the flue cleaned regularly.

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[scaryjim]

... Do you have grinders reducing the fuel & blowing it into the combustion chamber to increase efficiency? I used to design those ...

OMG I want that job

[oolon]

Personally I think the best thing to do is to have the chimey removed to give your room extra space and perhaps fit internal insulation like "Space foam".

[Zak33]

I too have a small fireplace.

My sister has a Stovax Riva fitted, which effectively is a standard UK fireplace sized log burner "cartridge" which means it fits right in the hole. It is a box in a box... so the intense heat is convected out into the room through the vents at the top of it, the log burner firebox being supported in it's centre....so many house CAN have a good stove inset into their fireplace.

I however, like a challenge,, so this week and next, myfireplace is removed, the aperature lime rendered, and the new granite hearth goes in.

Then the chiney is flued and thenew Foxfire goes into the aperture.

That's the plan....

it looks like this



mine will be rear flued so the pipe comes out the back and then up... so the burner can sit into the room on the hearth.

[Zak33]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ej5n5f0CmE

one of those....

[Tumble]

niiiiiiiiice Like 0iD - I don't even have a chimbly, but if I did, I'd have one of those yesterday. Used one last time we went to France - the windows were frozen shut but it was so warm inside!! loverly. Clean too - hardly any ash left over after it had been going all night!

[Funkstar]

Me and the missus actually went into the local heating store yesterday to look at the stoves. I was saying earlier in the day that I'm loathed to have another winter where we burn fuel and probably 99% of it goes straight up the chimney.

The fire place in our living room doesn't have any shape to it, just a rectangular hole. So it probably doesn't draw air properly and there is no chape to the back to push the hot air into the living room.

ultimately we would like a gas fired Raeburn Heatranger in the kitchen linked to the stove in the living room with a back boiler, then some solar collector tubes on the room or perhaps even a ground source heat loop in the garden.

A couple of friends of ours have stoves, and they are amazing. I've been told that sitting an Ecofan on top of the stove really helps to throw the heat into the room.

[Zak33]

Me and the missus actually went into the local heating store yesterday to look at the stoves. I was saying earlier in the day that I'm loathed to have another winter where we burn fuel and probably 99% of it goes straight up the chimney.

The fire place in our living room doesn't have any shape to it, just a rectangular hole. So it probably doesn't draw air properly and there is no chape to the back to push the hot air into the living room.

ultimately we would like a gas fired Raeburn Heatranger in the kitchen linked to the stove in the living room with a back boiler, then some solar collector tubes on the room or perhaps even a ground source heat loop in the garden.

A couple of friends of ours have stoves, and they are amazing. I've been told that sitting an Ecofan on top of the stove really helps to throw the heat into the room.

you are told right.

An eco fan, for those not in the "know" is a very very low votage super efficient electric motor, which is powered by the difference in heat between the metal base, set upon the bloody hot log burner, and the much cooler heatsink stuck on the top.

the tiny electro plate between the two creates a voltage from the temp difference and with a large, alloy fan connected, it helps throw the heat off the stove.

However.....

RADIANT and CONVECTOR stoves exist.

Radiant is what I have going in , and I only have it because I had no room for a convector stove.

Radiant means the stove is fearsome hot.. and it radiates heat, making the close surroundings very hot

But... especially in Sweden and Denmark, convectors are popular. Same stove principle, but the sides are ribbed and then had another outer layer of metal, held awayfrom the ribs.

Cold air on the floor is drawn up throug the fins, between the burner box and the outer skin and hot air comes out of the top... very good at heating larger spaces , but not roasty toasy up close.

Also consider that the Swedes love to have soap stone all over their burners... go see Scan (not the PC hardware guys....) and look at the sheer weight of stone on some of them.

That takes hours to heat up but last for a very ong time and gives tremendous long term heat.

Scan, and Morso are good makers of stoves from the cold lands of Sweden and Denmark. But also bear in mind those countries are short of coal, so most as wood burners first and foremost.

Woodwarm, and Cleaview are good UK makers.

The stove market it amazing...and all I need now is for the fireplace that came out today to have left a taller gap than it did!!!!

bloody buildings.....

no feet on my stove then....

[TeePee]

Wood is a big deal over here. Good clean renewable energy. They have 'Furnaces' which will heat an entire house, and automatically add wood from a hopper as needed.

[Whiternoise]

Dad's got one of these http://www.morsoe.co.uk/%C3%984-1794.aspx in his house, great little thing in the winter. It's rated about 73% efficiency, though that's net - so pretty much class-leading - it's gross efficiency is 81%. They're incredibly well built and a lot of technology goes into them. You can see the airflow inside it and it's nowhere near as simple as you'd expect, there are little channels all over the place to maximise the efficiency.

[TAKTAK]

My parents had one fitted last year, and the builder did a brick arch around it so now I swear it looks like a tunnel with a train coming through it...

They had one of the Charnwood multifuel ones: http://www.charnwood.com/country-range-country4.asp

[Zak33]

it's a popular subject

Whiternoise... we looked very closely at that Morso too, but it's too wide... but it's a similar awesomeness of efficiency...

And TAK, we also looked at Charnwood, as it's UK and it also was on the sort list.

Today, 1st June.. my Fox Fire is in and awaiting use.

The chimney breast lintel has been partly removed, and the blockwork done to av ea high lintel, so I can use the pedestal feet that I wanted.

The chimney was flued today, the granite hearth went in yesterday, and once the painting has all been done on the living room wall's, we're sorted.

(apologies for appaling jpeg compression once bad photo taken with mobile phone....)

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