Chav Tales...

[Zathras]

Also if Zathras is much younger than you, he didn't live through what he quoted. Which means his opinion, is not his, but one of someone he knows/something he read.

LOL, who is this guy? I'm 24 if you must know, but have read quite extensively around the area of the decline of manufacturing communities and the effect of the policies of the Conservative government of the 80s breaking those communities. I've also got first-hand experience of the latter, having lived for a year in Luton where the Vauxhall plant has scaled back massively, and if you want to see Chavs try working in a phone store in Luton... My grandfather worked his entire life at Leyland Motors and lived on one of the most 'council' of estates in Lancashire. Since the plant has almost shut down completely he's found a gradual but now pretty much complete change in attitude on the estate where he's living: no-one goes to the social club any more, and in the past if some youngsters were acting up you could go and see their parents as they were more than likely connected to the works in some way, or the rest of the community would take quite firm collective action against them. Now he feels like he's living not in a community, but just a house as these people have moved out or passed on. Now it's all people for whom rampant consumerism has taken over any other idea or goal in their life, and showing off their latest car/bling/trainers to their mates gets them a higher social standing than holding down a job.

[Jimmy Little]

I had one step out on the road a while back while I was riding my bike late at night “ shouted in a a crackly voice “eeeeeeeeee you got any sweeties mate” I was to taken back to reply or laugh or shout and rode on! I take it sweeties is drugs

[RVF500]

The other side of the coin is the country crippled by the union actions of the 1970's. A choice had to be made between the power of the unions and the welfare of the country as a whole. Happily the country won. I grew up and began work in the 70's. Witnessed first hand the destruction wrought by out of control unions. Was in the army during the miners strike and accused by a group of miners of being in the police lines against the pickets. Which was a myth.

At the time the social misfit groupings were football fans/gangs, punks, then a resurgence of mods and rockers which gave way to skinheads. Before them were mods/rockers 1, beatniks and teddy boys. In short there will always be young people attracted to a group identity with a violent outlook. Chavs are just the latest group. These groups existed before Thatcher and were made up of mainly poor and poorly educated who wanted to look flash or different. Follow the latest gangster culture. Drugs are nothing new, it's all been done before.

The teds were draped in loud crepe jackets, mods would put as many mirrors on a scooter as was possible, rockers were all leather and motorbikes, punks were as loud and outrageous as they could be. What next? Judge Dredd lookalikes? 'wow. cool kneepads dude' nice spandex jumpsuit, ooh, suits you sir.

So you can blame Thatcher if you want but then who are you going to blame for prevoius violent minority groups and those who will take over from the chavs?

[Jimmy Little]

The other side of the coin is the country crippled by the union actions of the 1970's. A choice had to be made between the power of the unions and the welfare of the country as a whole. Happily the country won. I grew up and began work in the 70's. Witnessed first hand the destruction wrought by out of control unions. Was in the army during the miners strike and accused by a group of miners of being in the police lines against the pickets. Which was a myth.

At the time the social misfit groupings were football fans/gangs, punks, then a resurgence of mods and rockers which gave way to skinheads. Before them were mods/rockers 1, beatniks and teddy boys. In short there will always be young people attracted to a group identity with a violent outlook. Chavs are just the latest group. These groups existed before Thatcher and were made up of mainly poor and poorly educated who wanted to look flash or different. Follow the latest gangster culture. Drugs are nothing new, it's all been done before.

The teds were draped in loud crepe jackets, mods would put as many mirrors on a scooter as was possible, rockers were all leather and motorbikes, punks were as loud and outrageous as they could be. What next? Judge Dredd lookalikes? 'wow. cool kneepads dude' nice spandex jumpsuit, ooh, suits you sir.

So you can blame Thatcher if you want but then who are you going to blame for prevoius violent minority groups and those who will take over from the chavs?

Deep man... deep

[Grey M@a]

My last encounter was last night, was out driving a bunch of charvs in another clio similar to mine had his full beams on so I started playing the breaking trick. The git decided to tailgate me so I slammed my breaks on and he swerved got out his car and made his way to my window, at which point I opened the door got out, knocked the argos jewelry wearing slag out left him on the road for his mates to sort out and promised that if they pulled it again I would do more than knock them out. Scum the lot of them to be perfectly honest.

[Geist]

Chavette No.1 - wow did you get us the beer, cheers star your safe

me - nah this is mine, yours is in the shop still

Found avoiding groups of em where i could and then just ignoring em if i couldnt worked fine... that and very evil looks when they speak to me works wonders... I think i look like their perfect target tho at first glance being 5'5" Never been in a position to clearly be able to say that they attacked first tho... Cops up in aberdeen didnt like the whole 'he's coming right for us!'

[[GSV]Trig]

And lookin 12 eh G

[Geist]

*cough* some ppl would kill to have my youthfull looks....

[[GSV]Trig]

Yeha but Clingy n Turt dont count as there over 40

[RVF500]

One point I forgot to mention. All these groups had one thing in common (except the football hooligans). They all followed the latest music craze.

[Silence]

I had one incident about 6 months ago while walking to uni in Liverpool. Now, i've always had hassle from some of the neighbourhood kids (for not looking like them), but in the past it's always been verbal, or maybe the odd football kicked in my direction (none of them are gonna make it to the youth squad...).

There I was, minding my own business, listening to some mp3s while walking to a lecture, when i turned the corner and saw a bunch of about 8 scallies, aged between 12 and 18. I did my normal trick of ignoring them, but as I got close, the youngest one punched me in the face. No reason, nothing said, just a punch. I didnt move (my huge Swear boots are great for grounding yourself ), and just looked at him. His mates circle me, but give me a wide birth, and start hurling insults.

Now, i've done a fair bit of martial arts, but im a pacifist, and it wouldn't really look like self defense if i floored the 12 year old oik that hit me, so i told the kid that he hits like a girl, andcarried on walking. They parted to let me through, but as i get about 10 paces away they start lobbing rocks at me. Thankfully none hit me, so i casually walked away, weaving in between parked cars.

Kids nowadays, no respect, wish we could just backhand the little gits with as much impunity as they enjoy on an everyday basis.

[schmunk]

One point I forgot to mention. All these groups had one thing in common (except the football hooligans). They all followed the latest music craze.

Damned Baby flaming Cakes...

[RVF500]

So, eradicate any hip hop etc and ban any new musical revolutions and all will be well

[Grey M@a]

I had one incident about 6 months ago while walking to uni in Liverpool. Now, i've always had hassle from some of the neighbourhood kids (for not looking like them), but in the past it's always been verbal, or maybe the odd football kicked in my direction (none of them are gonna make it to the youth squad...).

There I was, minding my own business, listening to some mp3s while walking to a lecture, when i turned the corner and saw a bunch of about 8 scallies, aged between 12 and 18. I did my normal trick of ignoring them, but as I got close, the youngest one punched me in the face. No reason, nothing said, just a punch. I didnt move (my huge Swear boots are great for grounding yourself ), and just looked at him. His mates circle me, but give me a wide birth, and start hurling insults.

Now, i've done a fair bit of martial arts, but im a pacifist, and it wouldn't really look like self defense if i floored the 12 year old oik that hit me, so i told the kid that he hits like a girl, andcarried on walking. They parted to let me through, but as i get about 10 paces away they start lobbing rocks at me. Thankfully none hit me, so i casually walked away, weaving in between parked cars.

Kids nowadays, no respect, wish we could just backhand the little gits with as much impunity as they enjoy on an everyday basis.

You got more patients than me lol at that point I would of look for the biggest and oldest charv and floored him, that way the other little scallies see they aint got a chance. Persoanlly I think we should round em up and ship em all out. As i said before, the lot of em are scum

[Lee H]

Part of our local estate is FULL of chav's and chavettes on a Friday and they all seem to hang about near tesco.

heres what happened last Friday when I popped out @ 11 to get some ciggies.

location : enterance/exit area of Tesco.

me walks out and lights up cigarette. cue 4 chavettes and 2 chavs walk over ( the girls dragging their knuckles over the carpark with their gold dolls dangling round their nexts )

Chavette 1 "eee ahh - u gotta spare cig mate ?"

Now at this point - just to annoy the little buggers I got my packet out and slowly counted them ... I replied "nope - 20 in this pack, therefore no spare and none for you"

Chavette 2 "but come on m8 - gizza ciggy will ya"

me - "why ? go buy some instead of scrounging"

Chavette 1 " me and Char have no money "

me - "oh so you can buy designer clothes, gold 200 pound stupid looking dolls that hang round your neck, but you cannot afford cigarettes ?"

Chavette 1 "shut up <censored> wtf is going on with your hair.... omg you look daft etc"

me "I'm growing my hair at the moment, in time my hair will look better - but for you I'm afraid you will always look like a trout with a swollen lip"

Chav 1 at this point swung for me, luckly he missed and was raring like that person off that fatpie chav video. I just laughed and walked away grinning ever so slightly... just a small fraction

[Cat Woman]

I believe "chavs" originated from Chatham, Kent, although if you've ever been to Milton Keynes you'd see there is a whole new breed of chav with an extremly over exagerated cockney accent that's barely understandable. They refer to MK as "Keyney land" or said very quickly "Malt Kairns" How lovely!