legalise cannabis?

[Spud1]

I'm all up for legalising it tbh.

Weed is just like alcohol in one sense - in small quantities its not that bad for you - you can have a good time, loosen up, relax etc and nothing really bad happens.

Weed does you damage when you overuse it - just like alcohol. Theres a direct comparison there, i know people who have smoked weed on and off for years with no problems, then again I know a few who go through £150-£200 a week of the stuff, they are pretty messed up tbh. Its just the same as people who only drink in moderation (with the occasional binge), they dont have issues with doing that, but someone who drinks all the time will have problems...

Legalising weed would be a good move all round, it would make it safer to smoke, ok most of us some skunk anyway which isnt really cut with anything, but those people who prefer hash could be smoking anything - legal ways to purchase it would allow for tighter controls on its purity. As mentioned the government would make a fortune in taxes - look how much they make from cigs?

[Nick F]

I was round a dealers house once and he showed me how he cut the hash to "pad" it out. He chucked loads of rubbish in there.

Its all about the real dam skunk tbh, nothing competes. Once you have had the best you never want to go back.

[Andy]

If anyone has the chance, check out the late great comedian Bill Hicks. His take on the whole Cannabis debate is very interested (as well as being extremely funny).

[Theo]

It should be legalised for medicinal use. As a med user, I think it is my right that I shouldn't have to fund organised crime in order to live a better quality of life. Cannabis is the only drug that provides relief for me, the many synthetic drugs that I have been prescribed either do not work, or barely work and have addictive/horrible side effects that make life just as bad as it was before.

I am not a stoner, a heavy user, a drug dealer, nor am I a social smoker. Why have I been denied my rights to medicine?

On another topic... Whilst the complete legalisation of the drug makes sense - it's near harmless, many people in the UK use it for it's therapeutic effects, it is cheap to produce and the demand can raise high amounts of taxes for the government to line their peockets with. The British public are not mature enough to have another regulated social drug to be incorporated into their lives. While there is always the freedom of choice - the booze culture, dole scum (not all people on the dole are scum, so don't be offended please), and the underage market all scream that it's a bad idea (in my opinion). Should the British public reach the level of social maturity then perhaps in the future cannabis can be incorporated into society as a regulated drug.

Whilst on the subject of legalisation and regulation of social drugs. Why is there such a following for legalisation of Cannabis, but not MDMA?

[Byatt]

If anyone has the chance, check out the late great comedian Bill Hicks. His take on the whole Cannabis debate is very interested (as well as being extremely funny).

Quoted for truth, although I'd say his mushroom/lsd sketches were funnier

"Not all drugs are good...some...are great, you just have to know your way round them, s'all."

Points regarding maturity from Theo above are excellent too - intrigued to see what ideas people have for educating the population on the safe use of drugs.

[Ben Rogers]

when i smoked an oz of ak47 in just under 3 days that was when i was feeling my best but it was too expensive to maintain that level so it just got worse when i smoked less..also when there was no skunk about i had to smoke solid - that way i needed about half or just under a day to stay 'sane'.

mdma defintely should not be legal :|

now that really screws you up long term with the same as what ive got and can cause on the spot death, black outs, seizures etc...too dangerous to make that legal me thinks. Anyone think lsd should be legalised?

causes very bad problems with short/long term memory & causes the wrong perspective to be changed in the brain long term with heavy use.

[skuzgib]

Leagal for medicinal - yes
otherwise - no

I thought the thread said legalise cannibals at first

[Stewart]

when i smoked an oz of ak47 in just under 3 days that was when i was feeling my best but it was too expensive to maintain that level so it just got worse when i smoked less..also when there was no skunk about i had to smoke solid - that way i needed about half or just under a day to stay 'sane'.

mdma defintely should not be legal :|

now that really screws you up long term with the same as what ive got and can cause on the spot death, black outs, seizures etc...too dangerous to make that legal me thinks. Anyone think lsd should be legalised?

causes very bad problems with short/long term memory & causes the wrong perspective to be changed in the brain long term with heavy use.

Your argument seems to be based around the fact that you couldn't handle it, started smoking too much and got messed up.

People drink themselves to death, most have a drink on a Friday nights with their mates. Should it be banned because some people can't handle alcohol?

I used to have the odd spliff when walking the dog around the park, or to relax at night, when I felt like it, and now... I still have the odd spliff when I walk the dog or to relax at night. I can take it, I can leave it.

I don't smoke ciggies, never have done, never will. I know which would cost more and be of a bigger danger to my health, a 20 a day Benson habbit, or the odd funny fag when I'm in the mood.

Disclaimer - I don't really smoke it of course, nor do anything illegal for that matter. I'm just making it up, not sure why... I think its the weed.

[Ben Rogers]

Your argument seems to be based around the fact that you couldn't handle it, started smoking too much and got messed up.

People drink themselves to death, most have a drink on a Friday nights with their mates. Should it be banned because some people can't handle alcohol?

I used to have the odd spliff when walking the dog around the park, or to relax at night, when I felt like it, and now... I still have the odd spliff when I walk the dog or to relax at night. I can take it, I can leave it.

I don't smoke ciggies, never have done, never will. I know which would cost more and be of a bigger danger to my health, a 20 a day Benson habbit, or the odd funny fag when I'm in the mood.

Disclaimer - I don't really smoke it of course, nor do anything illegal for that matter. I'm just making it up, not sure why... I think its the weed.

yeah true

in moderation its good imo its just when you over do it it starts getting out of control. good way of chilling out, thats for sure. each to their own.

[skuzgib]

Why is it that people can admit to breaking the law by smoking cannabis, but the mere mention of the the word "warez", and the thread gets locked??

[Nick F]

Why is it that people can admit to breaking the law by smoking cannabis, but the mere mention of the the word "warez", and the thread gets locked??

Maybe because warez is to do with technology/software like this site, whilst cannabis is in a whole other domain.

[iranu]

I'll chuck my own 2p in to a good debate.

Having been a user in the past and experimented with a fair few substances I would say that education and denial of profit for the crimianl fraternity is the most important thing. And I'm not thinking the rubbish you here from schools or friends.

For example - if you were going to try a drug for the first time would you research it? Probably not, I never did.

As for the thread title - then yes - Some may ask my reasoning which is fair enough so here it is.

We live in a world of supply and demand. In that order. You supply a commodity (for a price) and people will either buy or not (unless addicted). If you can cut the supply ABSOLUTELY then there can be no demand, however, we all know that that is not practical, i.e., in a liberalised society then supply will always be available. No one can stop the import.

For aslong as I can remember a 8th has cost £7.50/10.00 the drug has defied inflation. i.e. it's getting cheaper.

So if theres always supply and we (including myself in the past, will buy it) then surely we have to look at a different solution.

My own thoughts are to take the criminality out of it. I mean legalising it the same way tobacco/alcohol is legalised. Drive the organised criminal element out of the trade. Drug money is often used, albiet, higher up the chain, to fund, prostitution, rackettering, smuggling, fraud, (armed) robbery, terrosism (IRA) etc, etc, etc, etc.

Legalise it though licensed premises the same way alcohol is. Ensure quality, yet let the buyer know of the problems caused due to long term or heavy (ab)use.

An 8 or a Q a day is serious.

Again as said ^^ I think (pragmatically) moderation is the key.

Real Discussion of warez is not banned. Only the linking of warez sites and ware to find warez is banned the same way that if I was to post contact details of how to get illegal drugs is banned - mods?

[XA04]

So am i the only one who has never tried it - and never will, and who thinks its pathetic, and should never be legalised?

[Nick F]

So am i the only one who has never tried it - and never will, and who thinks its pathetic, and should never be legalised?

Ha, my girlfriend hates it, she will not stand me touching it. She has got a real thing against it and it pisses me off but you cant do anything about it.

Still get times for those crafty ones though

[Ben Rogers]

If it was legal then I suppose the paranoia of getting busted would somewhat diminish thus the user having one less thing to get worried about. The fact that it's illegal doesn't exactly help matters from that point of view imo.

[Trippledence]

I think the efects of alcohol in that kind of exes can be jsut as bad. Low class drug mabey. But i dont think its in the same class as speed or lsd and that ****. Skanky.