ISP for the younglings?

[aidanjt]

I have discussed it with my dad. Paying for it is not good enough.. as he wants his own internet connection. Obstinancy runs in the family

What?.. That makes *no* sense what so ever. There's no point in doubling up on services, it's a complete waste of money. Just get a decent router that supports traffic shaping and wireless networking, and use the extra cash you're not wasting on more bandwidth.

[TAKTAK]

But thats like having a separate washing machine just for socks...

[mediaboy]

What?.. That makes *no* sense what so ever.

I tried that argument as well

There's no point in doubling up on services, it's a complete waste of money

The word is TRIPLING up on services. My brother also has an internet connection, but he's normally at uni so it's not available for sharing.

Just get a decent router that supports traffic shaping and wireless networking, and use the extra cash you're not wasting on more bandwidth.

We already HAVE unlimited bandwith. Getting him to share this is impossible.

I have discussed it with my dad. Paying for it is not good enough.. as he wants his own internet connection to be seperate from any other ones we have in the house. Obstinancy runs in the family

Corrected. Missed out a bit when I first put it.

[jamin]

One question..... why?

[adam1701]

If you're 15/16 and your parents don't trust you, then I feel sincerely sorry for you.

I've had internet in my room since I was ... 12 ? Had dial up back then, I'm now 17 and have had broadband for 3 and a half years.

You don't want to get a dongle, 12gb would go in about 2-3 days with me.

Your best bet is, try to gain some trust, or just wait until you're 18.

Why not go to a friends house, and be at home as little as possible... that'd wind parents up.

good luck lol

[aidanjt]

One question..... why?

Because his dad has no concept of TCP/IP. It seams.

[TAKTAK]

The word is TRIPLING up on services. My brother also has an internet connection, but he's normally at uni so it's not available for sharing.

WTAF that is just barbaric madness, what is the point in shelling out 3 times more than you need to?

Have you got anything heavy to drop on his head to knock some sense into him?

[PeterStoba]

WTAF that is just barbaric madness, what is the point in shelling out 3 times more than you need to?

Have you got anything heavy to drop on his head to knock some sense into him?

Phone bill?

[mediaboy]

One question..... why?

There's entire lists of reasons why that I've systematically destroyed over the last two years.... First objection was that other people might be able to 'hack into' the internet conenction and use it illictly, which lasted all of a few seconds until I went and researched into security...

You don't want to get a dongle, 12gb would go in about 2-3 days with me.

What do you do!? It's not like I'm planning on gaming 24/7 or going on youtube lots or whatnot. 1GB is something like 20 hours of internet surfing according to 3 Mobile...

Your best bet is, try to gain some trust, or just wait until you're 18.

Why not go to a friends house, and be at home as little as possible... that'd wind parents up.

good luck lol

I spend an awful lot of time not at home. He sees little enough of me as it is.. I'm only really home for longer than 12 hours in holidays, and even then that's presuming that every single other friend of mine has gadded off on holiday at the same time...

WTAF that is just barbaric madness, what is the point in shelling out 3 times more than you need to?

lol

Have you got anything heavy to drop on his head to knock some sense into him?

Phone bill?

We pay a flat rate for unlimited internet usage and for first hour of any phone call to another landline free.

Our phone bill is remarkably small for how much we use it and the internet.

[adam1701]

what ISP gives you unlimited usage?

[mediaboy]

Take a look at that link to the BT one earlier that someone put up... that offers unlimited broadband.

Quite a few do it... at a large cost, naturally.

I think my dad has a contract with Virgin, but don't quote me on that.

[jamin]

Had you considered emancipating yourself?

Or, I don't want to sound like your Dad but..... try respecting your Dads wishes as you are his child in his house and maybe he believes he is protecting you or maybe you have damaged in some way his trust in you. If you show he can trust you, then maybe he will start making compromises.

If this doesn't work, I am afraid you are left with only one option. You are going to have to walk into a Newsagent. On tiptoe grab that copy of Razzle or Readers Wives, stroll to the cashdesk without the normal customers noticing how red your cheeks are. Then as you fumble for the damp sweaty Fiver in your pocket you need to try and maintain the illusion you are over 18, aware constantly that the person putting your jaz mag into a brown paper bag is smiling to themselves.

Believe me, this was the only way most over 25's got their pron at your age.

[mediaboy]

I am respecting my dad's wishes.. at the moment. But it doesn't mean, however, that I view it as reasonable or absolute and therefore I will seek to go around them if they are in the way of what I am attempting to do.

As for passing for 18, I do that often enough that it's a pain not to pass for 18. Alternatively, that could just be the PC game shops ignoring the age rating and going for the sale. The amount I pay for games should justify that.

And how many times do I have to say that I'm not interested in pron?

I want an internet connection for conveniance... to chat to people without having my dad being able to come over and read my chat whenever he feels like it... to be able to not have to muck around with little sisters.... to be able to actually activate games on my computer without first dragging it down a flight of stairs and risking dropping it.

As for 'protecting me' I have already said that he views his refusal to let me purchase an internet connection as protecting HIMSELF, not me. Which is why, once again, I need to ask if anyone knows who has liability.

It seems that, in the case of those who are older than 10 (age of criminal responsibility), it would be logical to assume that it would be me... but with the law going nuts over everything, and meaning that I can't go on school trips or go out of school or do anythign at school without first getting about twenty pieces of paper signed and more sent around the country, I guess it's worth checking.

In relation to damaging his trust in me, I presume that you believe that I would do something that would damage his trust in me? It's a good idea, but unforntunately enough, I can't think of anything I've done that would justify a lack of trust... if anything I get trusted lots.

Hmm... maybe it was losing my cash card for a few hours until I got round to tidying up my desk? Or was it accidentally putting twenty quid in the bin? Yup.. sounds like a loss of trust to me....