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    Cheap PSU

    Ok my friends computer no longer powers up, i'm pretty sure it's a PSU issue. So i'm trying to decide what PSU to get from scan, which of these 2 do you think would be best?
    He really won't spend anymore than £30 either.


    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=256346

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Produ...oductID=468725


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    Fortron definitely

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    For that spec PC you need no more than 330w, which leaves you nicely at the door of the Tagan 2Force 330w

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    Either IMO but the Fortron may have the edge as they've been around longer etc.

    I've used Fortrons and SilverPower and both are quality.

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    Fortron is the better brand but is you friend likely to upgrade soon as that pc is lacking abit??? leave me a message if he is I'am UK too I will help him build his ideal machine for his budget

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    Id say that one would be quieter as it has a larger slower turning fan. Either way wont make much difference on such an old pc. If he does have any kind of upgrade planned for the next year or so i would tell him to double his money and buy something worthwhile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave87 View Post
    For that spec PC you need no more than 330w, which leaves you nicely at the door of the Tagan 2Force 330w
    Im sorry to disagree but you are wrong!
    That system would not draw alot of power and the Fortron would be more than enough.


    Quote Originally Posted by saltynay View Post
    Fortron is the better brand but is you friend likely to upgrade soon as that pc is lacking abit??? leave me a message if he is I'am UK too I will help him build his ideal machine for his budget

    Matt
    Touting for businees or just being helpful????
    You decide!

    Also, wouldn't want you helping me build mine tbh.
    I just saw you have a Truepower 420W running you rig and that is RIGHT ON THE EDGE for what you are running as they are old technology now and the 12Vs are not too strong anymore.
    Last edited by Blitzen; 22-03-2007 at 05:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    Im sorry to disagree but you are wrong!
    That system would not draw alot of power and the Fortron would be more than enough.
    I would agree on getting a Fortron over a Tagan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    Touting for businees or just being helpful????
    You decide!
    My thoughts exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitzen View Post
    I just saw you have a Truepower 420W running you rig and that is RIGHT ON THE EDGE for what you are running as they are old technology now and the 12Vs are not too strong anymore.
    He speaketh the truth again

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    Quote Originally Posted by amjedm View Post
    I would agree on getting a Fortron over a Tagan.



    My thoughts exactly.


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    lmao blitzen my computer psu on the edge your kidding right an sli 8800gtx system has a minimum power requirement of 420W............... the maximum any computer would ever need is 550W and large number of amps on the rails. I have built 13 computers for friends and family my psu is enough I have tested the power intake and it is 312W on start up (everything full power) so mine is comfortable.

    Blitzen no offence but your system isnt anything special and you have 620W that is just stupid why pay more for what your not going to use atleast you chose an ok brand.

    I wasn't spiking for business I meant my comment only as I will suggest what computer parts he would want. For the pcs that I have built for people I only charge them £20 service charge for full setup and configuration and software installation.

    I run a multimedia server on my LAN network at boarding school from that I get a monthly income of £3,000 in subscription fees that subsidises the cost of my time to build a pc.

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    You get a 3 year warranty with the Tagan though, as opposed to 12 months with the Fortron....

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltynay View Post
    lmao blitzen my computer psu on the edge your kidding right an sli 8800gtx system has a minimum power requirement of 420W............... the maximum any computer would ever need is 550W and large number of amps on the rails. I have built 13 computers for friends and family my psu is enough I have tested the power intake and it is 312W on start up (everything full power) so mine is comfortable.

    Blitzen no offence but your system isnt anything special and you have 620W that is just stupid why pay more for what your not going to use atleast you chose an ok brand.

    I wasn't spiking for business I meant my comment only as I will suggest what computer parts he would want. For the pcs that I have built for people I only charge them £20 service charge for full setup and configuration and software installation.

    I run a multimedia server on my LAN network at boarding school from that I get a monthly income of £3,000 in subscription fees that subsidises the cost of my time to build a pc.

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    1. Im not going to get in a flame war with you as i like the forums here and 'usually' the posters are polite and knowledgable.

    2. This comment: my computer psu on the edge your kidding right an sli 8800gtx system has a minimum power requirement of 420W tells me that your knowledge of power requirements isn't good. Its not the wattage that counts, its the amperage on the 12V rails that is the key. I would also hazard a guess, that, if you have ever checked your rails, it has only been with software and not done correctly.

    3. My PSU is overkill for my current system yes. The fact that is 620W is, if you know anything regarding power, is neither here nor there (see point 2). I also have plenty of headroom there.

    4. I can see already that you are itching for a 'debate' but there really is no point im afraid as your points regarding PSUs, both yours and the suggestion for the OP), are wide of the mark tbh.

    If you rely on a PSU calc then i rest my case.

    the maximum any computer would ever need is 550W
    Are you sure you have built PC's before? This comment is so far from the truth its in another galaxy

    Quote Originally Posted by saltynay View Post

    I run a multimedia server on my LAN network at boarding school from that I get a monthly income of £3,000 in subscription fees that subsidises the cost of my time to build a pc.

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    I have got absolutely no idea why you felt the need to mention your supposed profiteering????
    Maybe you should invest some of your 'fortune' in a PSU thats fits the system in your sig.
    Last edited by Blitzen; 22-03-2007 at 07:01 PM.

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    the maximum any computer would ever need is 550W and large number of amps on the rails. I have built 13 computers for friends and family my psu is enough I have tested the power intake and it is 312W on start up (everything full power) so mine is comfortable
    Well i'm glad u haven't built 1 for me.

    tested the power intake and it is 312W on start up
    since when will gfx card draw max amps on start up., it's only running 2d not 3d.

    As Blitzen rightly says it's 12v amps that matter far more than total watts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltynay View Post
    the maximum any computer would ever need is 550W and large number of amps on the rails. I have built 13 computers for friends.....

    That’s where you just lost any chance of credibility.

    Coming onto an enthusiast forum and telling people that they will never need more than 550watt beyond silly.
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    I know about point 2 being important and the amps being important you could say the same about % efficiency as if you don't have a high efficiency then your just wasting money. I checked my psu using an Antec ATX12V and some other power monitor I borrowed off of a friend cant remember the name.

    I was quoting the official nvidia recommendations as i remembered them I was just using as an example. All my money I receive from my server either is redirected back into the server expenses (satellite link broadband) or into my bank. The server has 8.79 tb in antec 900 case with an added 3 hdd cage it has 3 sata slot-load dvd drives it cost allot to set up and It runs off of an antec true power trio 650W which is the exception to my general rule

    Matt

    edit: sorry agent but I dont see how you could possibly use more then a 550W antec tru power trio psu without configurating some sort of 8800gtx sli system with 10 fans 10 hdd's and a quad core with 8gb of ram. Ill admit that I was wrong about that statement about never needing more then 550W (by a good brand) but do you guys not agree that the chance of someone using more then this power is quite slim?

    Clunk: im in sixth form only two years left of school so I would of earned £48,000 due to term times.
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