My comp sucks

[malfunction]

Hmm, I'll have a look on Akasa's site for install instrucions as none came with it. I didn't think it could go on a wrong way round..... :edit: Found this. Am sure that's how I was doing it. Will try removing the PSU to get the HSF installed better tonight. I can now see how it would be installed wrongly as it looks to fit over the socket top (sort of a raised bit).

But how would it recognize that it wasn't on right? Or would it get that from the heat build up in the CPU? Would the same thing happened if no HSF is on (not that I'm gonna be stupid enough to try that!)?

Al - it wouldn't recognise it - it's just that the BIOS has a safeguard that makes it automatically shut down when the temp goes above a pre-set level (usually around 70 celcius). Cross your fingers if that is what's happening as it may have gotten too hot and fried the chip. HSF can go on the wrong way sometimes but it's obvious if you look at the base of the HSF and the socket as there's a raised section at the end of the socket and a corresponding section on the HS... i.e.

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(Phear my ASCII art skills)...

[Zak33]

malfunction....that's just amazing

nice work dude...

now...I'm sure these new Athlons have an overheat shut down,like Malfunction says....so it should be OK.

Unlike the older Athlon, which might be dead...those are much more prone to burn out

[Skii]

In answer yo your question Al yes its perfectly possible to put the heat-sink on the wrong way around, the fact that its so easy to do on AMD boards is a particular bug-bear of mine.

Are you getting a siren type sound out of your PC speaker by any chance ?

[Zak33]

just so you all know....

Big_Al is at the pub

[Allen]

And I've only just got back!



Yes, I've printed off the instruction from Akasa and only just realised the shape thing, so I'm hoping to god I have it the wrong way round! And that was some mighty fine ASCII skills there, malfunction. Thank you.

I will look at this as soon as I get home. I'm just now hoping I've done no damage if it is in fact the wrong way round. I'm thinking of taking it all out of the case to make it easier to work on and that way I have no restriction (i.e. PSU and case) in putting the HSF on correctly. Then I can check it before putting it back into the case. Would that be a safe idea if I used the foam that came with the mobo and the ESD wrapping?

[Zak33]

hold up big bloke

Try justtaking out the PSU cos itmight be easier then...(4 screws on the back of the case I guess) and then REMEMBER to plug all the fans back in before power up

Also...use a PENCIL or CHOPSTICK to push down on the clips for that heatsink.....and if it'll fit, put summit under it to keep the mobo safe

[Allen]

Ooh, I use a screwdriver.... But the Akasa is good as it has a notch on the inside of the clip so the screwdriver can't slip out and damage the mobo!

Taking out the PSU should provide plenty of room though, rather than taking the whole thing apart. I know what to do, I changed my PSU last night for a CWT one and it all went ok. Blooming LONG cables though!

[Skii]

A good way of securing that heatsink is NOT to force down the clip on the side with a screwdriver - you are highly likely to slip and stab your mobo like a mofo.
See that gap through the middle of the heatsink block that the metal strap feeds through ? jam your screwdriver in there and force the spring down, you can then pop the clip shut on the side without any tension on it

[Allen]

Yeah, that's the way I do it... but I have to remove the fan first to get the right angle.

[5lab]

might be the psu orr..

have you tried blowing into the socket? sounds silly, but this happened once to me.. basically (i think) a bit of dust floated in when i pulled the old cpu off, and it was stopping a connection.. so try blowwing reallreally hard into it to clean any potential crap out. then push the chip in, and wiggle it a bit in a rotational fashion, this will help settle it in the socket...

erm if neither the psu or that help.. then.. have you got an old mobo lying around? i managed to fry a mobo by plugging in a damn agp card.. 3 days after warentee passed as well..

one final thing, if your just testing setups then you can rest the hsf on the cpu and apply light pressure onto opposite corners of it (with fan attatched) rather than trying to clip/unclip it each time. just remember its not securely attatched.. (only works with mobo horizontal)

[5lab]

ooh hangon. make sure all jumpers are in factory default positions too.. you might have unwittingly put the cmos jumper onto 'reset' - that'll stop the b*gger from booting.. and take the mobo out of its tray and rest it on a cussion, to make sure nothing is shorting out the bottom of it. and take out everything including hdds etc, except gfx card (unless onboard is present) and 1 stick of ram. and the cpu. duh.

[Zak33]

BLIMEY 5LAB.....GOOD POINT

Is it the PSU faulty? the new one?

[Allen]

Don't think so, it booted fine with my original setup. I installed them seperately to check. First PSU, booted fine with all drives connected (though one wouldn't show up in Explorer due to Linux boot but showed up in System Device list thingy) and it was only after I had the PSU connected properly that I tried the new CPU.

Also, I know the jumpers are correct. I've checked them enough times!

2 are of importance, one selects the processor FSB default (option 1 is 100MHz, option 2 is 133MHz, 166MHz and 200MHz which I have selected) and the other is the CMOS reset.

[5lab]

yeah but you could have blown the psu anyways.. did you unplug it before installing the cpu? if not then it'd be trying to send 3v (iirc) thru one of the wires, which might have confused something. worth a try with your old psu anyways

[Allen]

I didn't unplug the PSU from the board, but I had it switched off and the PSU disconnected completely from the wall. The green light was definately OFF on the mobo.

Surely if the PSU was blown, the mobo would get no juice at all? I get the fans come on and the mobo light... and the drives kick in too.

[5lab]

not nessesarily, i've had psus go so that only 1 line goes.. i think i have had a 3.3v line go, which might mean the mobo can do some stuff but not everythign..

worth a try, as everything is. are you sure your mobo can support 1.45v? if not you might have blown something on the mobo