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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

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    Well ive got no personal experience with an i7 but my friend has just got one a 920 with a gigabyte UD5 and at 3.6Ghz has gone up from 15000-19300 in 3dmark vantage (with 2x4870 + 4850). Which is quite the boost if you ask me. Hes still waiting for his waterblock attachments to carry on overclocking further.

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    the prices are dropping! you can get a gigabyte mobo for just a tad overt £200 now when at launch it was £230!

    the price of the cpu is also going down,£230 for the 920 retail boxed version when it was around £260 when it first launhed.

    will the i7 cpu go down to the magic £200 mark by january? i need every once of pennies i can save on my i7 build so i can hose it all it a top of the range case ie the coolermaster 840 or the lian li full tower ones, both sporting a price of over £150

    i also want to dump in at least a 260gtx card the 216core version to boot and im all set!

    http://www.scan.co.uk/shops/Intel/i7.aspx

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    the prices are dropping! you can get a gigabyte mobo for just a tad overt £200 now when at launch it was £230!

    the price of the cpu is also going down,£230 for the 920 retail boxed version when it was around £260 when it first launhed.

    will the i7 cpu go down to the magic £200 mark by january? i need every once of pennies i can save on my i7 build so i can hose it all it a top of the range case ie the coolermaster 840 or the lian li full tower ones, both sporting a price of over £150

    i also want to dump in at least a 260gtx card the 216core version to boot and im all set!

    http://www.scan.co.uk/shops/Intel/i7.aspx
    I hope they come down for everyone! But I'm impatient, I don't care, I'm buying my dream PC NOW!

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    Also: some one was comparing 4gb ddr2 ram againts the i7's 6gb ddr3 ram. the person who posted that should post it like for like ie if your gunna compare 4gb sticks, compare 4gb sticks on the i7 rig too.

    if u do that, the prices between the two becomes closer.

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Robscure View Post


    ***Price comparisons

    i7 920 Total: £601.58

    Motherboard: Asus P6T Deluxe £252.81
    CPU: Intel i7 920 £236.37
    RAM:http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/4GB-(...d-CAS-9-9-9-24 £117.42

    Core 2 Duo E8400 Total: £379.87
    Motherboard: Asus P5Q Deluxe £150.93
    CPU: E8400 £138.64
    RAM: 4gb corsair 1333mhz £90.30

    Core 2 Quad Total: £511.46
    Motherboard: Asus P5Q Deluxe £150.93
    CPU: Q9550 £270.23
    RAM: 4GB Corsair Dominator PC2-8500 (1066) £90.30

    ***The hardware selected for the i7 build is top-quality (subtract ~£150 if you purchase lower-end mobo/ram)... The hardware selected for the Duo and Quad's were mostly mid-range (add ~£150 if you purchase higher-end mobo/ram... add as much as £600 if you purchase QX series...)
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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    Also: some one was comparing 4gb ddr2 ram againts the i7's 6gb ddr3 ram. the person who posted that should post it like for like ie if your gunna compare 4gb sticks, compare 4gb sticks on the i7 rig too.
    Er.. isn't one of the points of the i7 that it has triple channel? If you're not going to use the new features then why would you buy a new processor?

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Er.. isn't one of the points of the i7 that it has triple channel? If you're not going to use the new features then why would you buy a new processor?
    Yeah I agree... I don't think it functions as well on dual, as it does on triple...

    That's why I selected triple. Either way, it's inexpensive really in terms of performancerice ratio, as far as I can tell.

    But if you already have a fast system there's no point in spending £600 in upgrades... I'm buying a completely new system, however, because I don't have a PC (only this laptop), and I don't mind spending a bit more to upgrade to something that I'll eventually have to upgrade to anyways, which will work out to cost the same in the end.

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Er.. isn't one of the points of the i7 that it has triple channel? If you're not going to use the new features then why would you buy a new processor?
    yes but does it make a load of difference from dual to triple? the prices of a i7 build is not has bad as some of you think. yes a core 2 is £100-£200 cheaper at best but come on, the i7 is a new architecture and a new product.

    what do you expect? to be priced the same has last gens offerings?

    if your coming from a p4 or equivalent pc then going to a i7 instead of a core 2 for £100-£200 extra is worth it IMO for abit of future proofing.

    If your on a core 2 then its understandable that you should stick to that for a while. all and all its not a bad thing to get a i7 nore is THAT expensive over the last Gen

    The thing is, is that yes i can buy that cheap E8300 core 2 now for around £500-£600 but later down the line i still have to buy an i7 or AMD's offering at some point for another £500-£600 and the total of that?

    1.1/1.2k, the same price of a i7 system that you can build now

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Robscure View Post
    Yeah I agree... I don't think it functions as well on dual, as it does on triple...
    Without benchmarking, I can't see any difference between triple channel and single channel yet, never mind double. Obviously it will be slower, but unless I'm doing something really CPU intensive (a multicore encode or something) then I doubt there'll be much difference.

    I'll be back to up to triple when I get my dodgy RAM module replaced, but I'm sure dual-channel won't be noticeably slower without benchmarking. Perhaps when heavily overclocking that difference will be exaggerated a bit more though - I've left mine at stock at the moment as I don't see any point in overclocking with the memory controller being rather less stressed than it will be.

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    How is the UD5? I was thinking of going with gigabyte again but thought i'd go with Asus this time
    It's nice. All my recent boards have been ASUS, more by circumstance than anything else, but I'm sick of them using huge northbridge coolers that are, frankly, ****. All eye-candy with little performance. I was going to go Abit this time around (loved the Dark Raider and cheaper boards I used on systems I built for others), but them pulling out of the motherboard market scuppered that plan.

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    yes but does it make a load of difference from dual to triple? the prices of a i7 build is not has bad as some of you think. yes a core 2 is £100-£200 cheaper at best but come on, the i7 is a new architecture and a new product.
    No it doesn't make much difference, but then again, neither does going to quad core from dual.

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    No it doesn't make much difference, but then again, neither does going to quad core from dual.
    i heard it does when your running lots of apps ie multi tasking alot which i do alot on my pc/laptop.

    i hear people closing their web browsers and anti virus programs etc when they play pc games on a dual core but i tend to leave most things open while i game so a quad core is definetly made for me.

    the problem with cpu technology is that it has advance soo much that software's is whats lagging behind alot as there are not much mutli threaded apps that take advance of even a dual core let alone a quad core

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    i hear people closing their web browsers and anti virus programs etc when they play pc games on a dual core but i tend to leave most things open while i game so a quad core is definetly made for me.
    Still possible on a dual core cpu. It's what I used to do with my Athlon X2 and on a quad it's even better I suppose

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by this_is_gav View Post
    Considering it was cheaper than anything other than the DS4 when I bought it, I was wondering why people were buying the P6T.
    When I bought the mobo and cpu, they were quite cheap compared to their price the next day. Several sites also mentioned being about to clock higher with the P6T, so i went with Asus.

    I don't think there's much difference between most of them (except the extreme has tri-sli and up to 24gb of ram if you need it) anyway; Asus and Gigabyte are the best manufacturers imo.

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    you on water or air?

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    air, i need better or more fans to get to 3.9/4ghz stable

    it's pretty solid at the moment though.

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    Re: Intel Core i7 Thread

    wow thats impressive! im looking to get a 920 into 3.2ghz in air and it seems like it will be very easy to do so!

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