Intel Core i7 Thread

[magneticman]

it's piss mate, these chips oc very well.

a 40% overclock would be the minimum you'd be looking at

[Robscure]

Well once I get my 920 I will be oc'ing and I'll let everyone know the results.

I'm getting a very good air cooling setup... probably the top I can possibly get, at least from Scan it is.

Especially considering I'm using this case, the Silverstone TJ07...

CPU cooler: Noctua NH-U12P

Scythe KAMA bay fan for added cooling... just because I can.

On an Asus P6T Deluxe... should be sweet

...so if I can't get a safe and stable 4ghz on this air cooling setup, I don't know if anyone can without going water.

[kalniel]

Or.. just buy one of these...

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=16444

[Robscure]

Or.. just buy one of these...

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=16444

I don't like the specs on it... It's weak. I'd rather upgrade.

[j.o.s.h.1408]

me too. kalniel, how the hell can u recommend people buy a pre build system is behond me

we are in hexus forums not the dell/noob forums

[Robscure]

me too. kalniel, how the hell can u recommend people buy a pre build system is behond me

we are in hexus forums not the dell/noob forums

(*can hear someone in the audience saying*) "Oooooh no he di'nt"

[magneticman]

whoa that dell is great value!

[kalniel]

me too. kalniel, how the hell can u recommend people buy a pre build system is behond me

we are in hexus forums not the dell/noob forums

It would be very noobish to ignore a good offer, even if that's pre-built. Again, it's about matching specs to actual need. Is there something you can't do with the pre-build that you want to? If yes then sure, build your own. But if the pre-build does the job then you'd be silly to ignore it. A base system + 4850 card and flog the existing card and you're laughing.

Unless you're some kind of nerd that likes to boast that they built their own computer (regardless of whether it came in easy to put together bits with full instructions).

[Robscure]

It would be very noobish to ignore a good offer, even if that's pre-built. Again, it's about matching specs to actual need. Is there something you can't do with the pre-build that you want to? If yes then sure, build your own. But if the pre-build does the job then you'd be silly to ignore it. A base system + 4850 card and flog the existing card and you're laughing.

Unless you're some kind of nerd that likes to boast that they built their own computer (regardless of whether it came in easy to put together bits with full instructions).

It's not a good offer though, it's just a box with an i7 in it, everything else is pretty crappy for the price. I know of at least two other people who agree with this opinion.

It's good perhaps for surfing the web, photoshop, etc... but so are a lot of £200 machines.

[kalniel]

You think an i7 based system, with 6gb RAM and a 4850 would only be good for surfing the web??

[j.o.s.h.1408]

You think an i7 based system, with 6gb RAM and a 4850 would only be good for surfing the web??

diddnt it have a 9800GT in it? anyways this pc is far from justa simple web browser. this system could play most games on very high settings. EASILY

i just dont like the case plus the mobo and PSU may not be the best of brands inside it but still a very good offer for a pre build

[shaithis]

Apart from overclocking and limited expansion....exactly what can the Dell not do that your home made one can?

Horses for courses....the Dell will be perfect for a number of people and frustratingly wrong for others.

[Robscure]

You think an i7 based system, with 6gb RAM and a 4850 would only be good for surfing the web??

Relative to the other possibilities of an i7 build.

Mobo: poor (Asus and Gigabyte are the best, there's been issues with i7's memory compatibility on certain boards, most notably the Asus Rampage, but that's a temporary fluke in lack of BIOS if I'm correct)
Ram: 1066, as slow as DDR2
PSU: only 360w...

For £700 you can get better gpu, better psu, better mobo, and better ram along with the i7...

It's good, like josh alluded to, for dell forums, and other prebuilt places (with the exception of 3xs)

But I think the quality is poor by our standards...

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Lol... It is a good bargain though, but I don't know who would buy that unless they have a very old computer and a decent monitor and just need a new pc... then maybe... but it's still mediocre at best.

edit: I know it will run games, I was joking about the web browsing thing...

Like I said, it's a good computer and a good deal if you're upgrading from crap.

[kalniel]

Apart from overclocking and limited expansion....exactly what can the Dell not do that your home made one can?

Expansion isn't limited in the most important areas (CPU/RAM/GPU). Overclocking.. could be a good point, we'll have to see what Dell do with the BIOS.

Horses for courses....the Dell will be perfect for a number of people and frustratingly wrong for others.

Yup. But it's not something to be dismissed out of hand for gamers, unless you have a specific requirement that means you need to build you own.

Relative to the other possibilities of an i7 build.

Mobo: poor

Based on what? How would this affect computer use?

Ram: 1066, as slow as DDR2

And this affects performance how much?

PSU: only 360w...

Dell rate PSUs differently, and they are quality bits of hardware. If they think 360W is enough, then it is.

But I think the quality is poor by our standards...

This sounds like pure snobbery. I dare say that the actual build quality from Dell is actually higher than most amateurs putting together their own system.

I don't mean to come accross as a Dell fanboy - they're certainly not the be all and end all - and if computer building is a hobby then it makes a huge amount of sense not to buy one (because the fun would be in building your own), but it would be really stupid to just dismiss it out of hand. My last computer was a Dell, and it lasted me for ages (as I was able to update it just fine). In the right, indeed, most, situations they are very good.

[Robscure]

Expansion isn't limited in the most important areas (CPU/RAM/GPU). Overclocking.. could be a good point, we'll have to see what Dell do with the BIOS.

Yup. But it's not something to be dismissed out of hand for gamers, unless you have a specific requirement that means you need to build you own.

Based on what? How would this affect computer use?

And this affects performance how much?

Dell rate PSUs differently, and they are quality bits of hardware. If they think 360W is enough, then it is.

This sounds like pure snobbery. I dare say that the actual build quality from Dell is actually higher than most amateurs putting together their own system.

I don't mean to come accross as a Dell fanboy - they're certainly not the be all and end all - and if computer building is a hobby then it makes a huge amount of sense not to buy one (because the fun would be in building your own), but it would be really stupid to just dismiss it out of hand. My last computer was a Dell, and it lasted me for ages (as I was able to update it just fine). In the right, indeed, most, situations they are very good.

lol you may not have meant to come across as a Dell fanboy, but when you resort to saying something like, "This sounds like pure snobbery" then you're either a Dell fanboy or rude lol

I'm not being a snob, I'm just saying that everywhere you look people are putting together good quality builds. If you want a high performance pc for cheap, especially for gaming, then you can spend under £400 for a Core 2 Duo build, am I right?

Or, you can pay an extra ~£400 for what? An i7?

I love Dell, because I had one for years, I kicked it, ran it 24/7, etc, and it still ran... But I just think that they're throwing an i7 in a box and putting a big sticker on it, only lower than the competition, so it looks good on the outside, but what are you really paying for? If you're buying it for gaming, why not get a much cheaper pre-built core 2 duo system?

[dshepsman]

how much would an equivilent i7 cpu/mobo/ram bundle cost if bought as an updrade? £600ish? more?

so buying a pre built i7 box for £600 looks to be better value at the mo, as it comes with case/psu/hdd etc... unless im missing something.

i even considered (for 5 seconds mind), to but the dell box, put the mobo/cpu/ram, upgrade the psu and graphics card and flog them and the case on ebay...
and it would be far cheaper than buying the componants seperately? no?