Fortress Europe!!!

[revol68]

russ u may work on a phone line within the nhs but i have actualy worked on a one on one basis with people claiming asylum and therefore i can see that behind every number u tally up or every file u flick thru there is a real person.

Ive watched families torn apart by the imprisoning of asylum seekers and ive also people burnt out of their homes because they are seen as spongers. As i said before instead of whining about the effect asylum seekers have on the social services why don't u get off ur ass and do something about government spending cuts, privitisation and layers and layers of managers instead of actual productive workers. If u are so concerned about the social services i can put u in touch with groups who are organising around these issues, but im guessing ud rather blame immigrants rather than ur own apathy for the state of our social services.

[Russ]

russ u may work on a phone line within the nhs but i have actualy worked on a one on one basis with people claiming asylum and therefore i can see that behind every number u tally up or every file u flick thru there is a real person.

Ive watched families torn apart by the imprisoning of asylum seekers and ive also people burnt out of their homes because they are seen as spongers. As i said before instead of whining about the effect asylum seekers have on the social services why don't u get off ur ass and do something about government spending cuts, privitisation and layers and layers of managers instead of actual productive workers. If u are so concerned about the social services i can put u in touch with groups who are organising around these issues, but im guessing ud rather blame immigrants rather than ur own apathy for the state of our social services.

quote me once where i've said that people who are SUFFERING dont deserve assylum

[DaBeeeenster]

Russ, you said:

YES persicution is horrible, and YES those pople should be granted assylum, but every man and his dog can get into britain, its like we dont care.

Are you saying you would let in EVERYONE seeking asylum, or cap it?

[Russ]

im saying, the UK is far to leanient, people who are suffering are welcome in this country, there escaping torture, people who want to move here to live and work legally, are welcome. but, do you HONESTLY believe EVERYONE who trys to seek asylum is being persecuted? i doubt it.

[DaBeeeenster]

Are you saying you would let in EVERYONE seeking asylum, or cap it?

[Russ]

depending on circumstance and evidence

[floppybootstomp]

If this were the case (and it is not, for a large number of countries in the world, but that's not really important here) are you not proud to say that you live in a country that would help a foreigner who had been injured in the UK?

Yes. Right on. What price a life? Now then, what's that oath all UK Doctors take? About saving life regardless?

[DaBeeeenster]

depending on circumstance and evidence

And is that not EXACTLY what happens at the moment?

[Russ]

so why are there so many ILLEGAL iimigrants if that happens ATM.

[floppybootstomp]

Russ: There are illegal immigrants in most 'Western' countries. Them people who would wish to be here are quite ingenious at getting in. Why, they'll even risk death in the back of an airtight refrigeareted Arctic Lorry, that's how clever they are.

Not that I agree with it. I don't. But that's how. We're an easy touch, despite being an island.

Let's shoot every last one of them. there, that should keep you happy.

[DaBeeeenster]

so why are there so many ILLEGAL iimigrants if that happens ATM.

Because Britain is the fourth richest nation on earth, and people want to be part of that. It's quite obvious I would have thought.

Not that this has anything to do with asylum seekers.