So it's mostly current gen stuff you're against? What if we can get nuclear working without highly radioactive isotopes?
Currently it is, but it need not be in the future.It IS a finite resource. If we as a human race can lower our use of it sufficiently we will have a lot longer to survive than if we use more of it in wasted things.
It probably only releases CO2 if you generate the power from fossil fuels in the first place (but I don't know about making concrete - maybe there's a step that's especially CO2 producing?). We can do almost anything with electricity now, so if we sort out the electricity generation from non fossile fuel sources then that's a huge step. The other big step is human consumption of meat, so if you're worried about CO2 then go veggie. I did.Wind and Wave and Solar power all require power, to be made in the first place. Turbines, generators etc... huge towers, concrete bases etc. There will come a time with an increasing population where the amount of electricty that can be made will be outstripped by what we need.
When the "amazing" windfarms need expanding to cover the Christmas lights, where will the energy come from to make them? From wind farms? Who is going to be able to make sufficient Concrete by raising the temperature of the base minerals, while releasing yet MORE CO2 from the actual process... with a wave farm?
I know that it is slightly off topic, but as far as the environment goes, the reason why CO2 is such a problem is because we are still cutting down swathes of forests that would otherwise have converted that CO2 into Oxygen!
DeludedGuy (10-11-2009)
It does seem overkill. Maybe, the personal carbon credit allowance would limit this kind of thing?
Kal, it's VERY worth while looking up Concrete Production and the way it's been missed out of the WindFarm CO2 calculations.
The ferocious temperatures to create concrete are only part of the issue too.... and the transport of it obviously. But the actual process of making Concrete is a vast CO2 producer.. because it' chucks out CO2 in the process as part of the chemistry. None of this is taken into account on Windfarm CO2 calculations.
It's a heady subject.. .. makes me giddy. because we need Concrete for virtualyl everything.
Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
kalniel (10-11-2009)
There are probably adult now, who grew up in an environment where lights were used in greater quantity than when you were a child. What about their childhood memory? 500-600 years ago, is it be possible that Christmas was celebrated differently to the way you are/enjoy?
Personally, I view Christmas trees as a bit of a waste. Actually, it's probably more of a waste than I even realise. But then, why be a miserable sod over something that makes others happy (I mean, it makes you, and I don't mean just you Zakk - happy right?).
One thing I could agree to though, is that at least the councils need to be reasonable over Christmas lighting. I wouldn't want my tax to go for Christmas lighting/decoration starting from the start of November and lasting till the end of January.
Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
A bit off from Christmas Lights, but ah well, it was a bit ironic.
I could see the irony if I made a thread ranting about car insurance advertisements only to find one though![]()
Never fear - the UK geniuses have started to rectified this issue
http://www.forumforthefuture.org/gre...icles/concrete
Carbon absorbing concrete is the future building material that is going to help with this.
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