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Spot on Charlie boy, but this was back in the days when you were allowed to do such things.
Indeed...Originally Posted by Stewart
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Who's ever discouraged anyone from flying the Flag of St George? I mean people in power, not people like me who think it's crass.
Quite. Help yourself. In reality, nobody (at least nobody with any serious influence) has ever attempted to stop you doing it. Unless you can prove otherwise?in case it could offend someone. It's our country, so why shouldn't we fly our flag?
Again- let's see your evidence. The Daily Mail and the Sun don't count, as they're notorious benders of the truth. I've never seen a single 'political correctness gone mad' story in either paper that couldn't be easily debunked within a minute on google.
Go on then, I'm waiting.
You cant erode something that isn't a constant. The beauty of 'culture', is the fact it is never the same as it was ten years ago. Britain has almost always been a multi-cultural nation, just now what we consider another culture is a just further away.
A few hundred years ago, Scotland was considered a different culture, long before that it was the next county that took 3 days to travel to by horse, was considered a different culture and often spoke an almost totally different language There has always been movement and immigration, just the distances and methods have changed. I'm sure in time(probably a huge amount of time), people will be ranting about the erosion of Earths culture.
We should have respect for a minorities cultural differences as they should have respect for ours. Though if you are a devote follower of some religion that severely conflicts with British values and laws, surely moving house is a small sacrifice to save you from eternal damnation?
Just to play devil's advocate here...Who's ever discouraged anyone from flying the Flag of St George? I mean people in power, not people like me who think it's crass
Quite. Help yourself. In reality, nobody (at least nobody with any serious influence) has ever attempted to stop you doing it. Unless you can prove otherwise?
Again- let's see your evidence. The Daily Mail and the Sun don't count, as they're notorious benders of the truth. I've never seen a single 'political correctness gone mad' story in either paper that couldn't be easily debunked within a minute on google.
Go on then, I'm waiting
Fire crews were banned as were taxi drivers. The deputy chief constable of north wales police happens to think so too... Peterborough council will allow it during the world cup but if you fly a flag for long afterwards, they'll prosecute.
Meanwhile, Birmingham City Council have tried to remove all religious content from Christmas and rename it 'Winterval'.
Those are from the left-liberal BBC - must have somehow slipped through the net...
Pwned
If you want to truely embrace British culture, read this book!
My dad bought it for my last Christmas and it's pretty funny actually. We should all eat fish and chips, watch cricket and drink local ale
Rightly so- a fire appliance is an important working vehicle which for safety reasons should not be being decorated with flags of any description. That's perfectly sensible if you ask me.
<shrugs>. The local council are a democratically elected body and if the public don't like the terms of their taxi licensing criteria they can vote them out. Again, these are working vehicles which legally have to be licenced- the council has a duty of care to enforce the terms of that licence.as were taxi drivers.
Yeah, but equally didn't one of the papers do an experiment where they left an england flag on a car in Scotland/Wales and then timed how long it took to be torn off? I see this merely as a plea not to be a nationalist idiot.The deputy chief constable of north wales police happens to think so too...
There's no context in that article as far as I can see, so it's hard to know what I'm arguing against.Peterborough council will allow it during the world cup but if you fly a flag for long afterwards, they'll prosecute.
That's rebutted in the article itself- there are plenty of references to Christmas according to Birmingham council's spokesperson. Also the article is 8 years old.Meanwhile, Birmingham City Council have tried to remove all religious content from Christmas and rename it 'Winterval'.
The 'left-liberal BBC', eh? Again- let's see your evidence....Those are from the left-liberal BBC - must have somehow slipped through the net...
Well, it’s from the Mail on Sunday, so feel free to say 'yeah, but that’s from the Mail on Sunday'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770
I've read and heard about the same story in many other places. The BBC is run by Guardianistas. Liberal Democrat voters. People who go into McDonalds to order a salad. People who think anyone who doesn't buy fair trade teabags is guilty of genocide. You know the type.
'One veteran BBC executive said: 'There was widespread acknowledgement that we may have gone too far in the direction of political correctness.
'Unfortunately, much of it is so deeply embedded in the BBC's culture, that it is very hard to change it.'
The vastly eared Andrew Marr, who presents a show on BBC1 on Sundays that I'm never up early enough to watch, and isn't a neo-Nazi \ Daily Mail reporter \ reader had this to say:
'The BBC is not impartial or neutral. It's a publicly funded, urban organisation with an abnormally large number of young people, ethnic minorities and gay people. It has a liberal bias not so much a party-political bias. It is better expressed as a cultural liberal bias.'
Or to sum up - full of lefty liberals, exactly what Woodchuck said. Pay more attention in future, I'd have thought someone in your position, that of a bus driver, would appreciate the need to pay attention.
What would happen if, one afternoon, you were at the wheel of your aforementioned bus, and you were not paying attention momentarily? I'll tell you what would happen, some sort of bus related incident. And whose fault would that be then? I'll tell you whose fault that would be, it would be your fault. And all because you were not paying attention.
Is that what you want? I don't think it is, is it?
Last edited by Stewart; 22-11-2006 at 02:07 AM.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditor...t_the_bbc.html
that bus driver analogy was pretty harsh!
http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=41300
Cough.
I wasn't arguing against the BBC being biased, I was merely demonstrating that in a field which also contains the Mail on Sunday I know which one I would choose.
Love the first comment posted by the public at the bottom:
'Nick wrote:
I think while many consider that the BBC tries hard to be impartial there is a general view that the BBC is not representative, and this comes across particularly in reports on Europe. A question that may be worth asking is what proportion of BBC employees read the Guardian compared to the nation as whole - and does this impact the way the organisation is seen.
It will always be difficult for an organisation sponsored by the state to not come across as left wing and in favour of big goverment.'
Aye, that's probably one of the most reasonable comments there before it descends into people realising they can subtract 60 from 100 to get 40 and cry foul without actually looking at the wording, and the usual rabid "OMFGZ TEH BBC HATES AMERICA, ISRAEL AND FREEDOM".
Oh, and one utterly brilliant one suggesting that Fox News is better.
Very true mate. Yesterday I took my eye off the ball and allowed four pushchairs on the bus when there are only supposed to be two. What a to-do it caused! I had a full blown argument going on, so much so that I had to open the cab door and tell them all to STFU, and then at the end of the trip an old lady told me she was going to report me for endangering everyone's safety. She was too busy moaning to listen to my apology, the miserble old bitch. Still, she'll probably die soon, rotting in her own filth because the NHS can't afford enough nurses any more, and good riddance.
Anyway, where were we? The BBC. IMO since Hutton it's been far too scared to do any proper investigations of the government, so nowadays I get my grievances from the Private Eye. They generally seem to have a 6 month headstart on the rest of the press. I dunno why everyone picks on he Guardian- on the rare occasions that I find a copy on my bus in time to read it during my lunch break, it'd pretty inoffensive, apart from Polly Toynbee, who's a complete asstard.
Bloody booze. What was I arguing about again?
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