But they basically had to 'overclock' and overvolt to get it to 5ghz.. Not a great sign, though presumably this might improve with bios revisions, or perhaps they'll simply work with systems builders to have them manually set up the boards rather than relying on the default speed/voltage tables.Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH
Yes, not much point benching a CPU at GPU limited settings. Ideally reviewers should bench at both settings since the info can occasionally be useful but when benching CPUs the default should be at low resolutions. (By 'occasionally' I mostly mean when reviewing low to mid range CPUs so that people building to lower budget can see that how a Pentium/i3 or FX6300 etc performs in actual games. The ideal of benching at high settings may also show high-end CPU in a more realistic light if a game or the graphic drivers use the CPU for some features.)
Even £300 is too high IMO unless it comes with a really good cooler or something. £300+ would only be justified if it could compete with LGA2011 which it can't. Also IB-E is out in a few months so that's moving target. Can't really see the point of this CPU except as a PR thing: so that these results can be seen in reviewers tables. But that would only work if reviewers mention that FX9550 is an overclocked FX8350; and I think the main CPU which AMD can hope to sell to gamers is an overclocked FX6300 since i3 can't really compete with that.
Power load is pretty poor compared to Intel's mainstream but I was surprised at how much power LGA2011 uses. Guess quad channel memory and all that cache doesn't come cheap power-wise.317 watts system load- wonder if my gtx 480 uses that on its own lol
I found the review to be quite biased in the choice of comparisons (e.g. not comparing against cheaper overclocked Intel CPUs when it does well, but comparing against them in tests that Piledriver does badly in).
Since an 8350 + high end cooling will get to 5GHz with a decent motherboard, it makes this new release pretty pointless at this price. But I don't like reviews that aren't objective.
The FX9370 is listed on Amazon US:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A?tag=at055-20
It comes to around £228 excluding taxes.
So what, £349 in the UK?
Well, they used to. If AMD are cherry picking the best silicon for the 9xxx range, then your overclocking chances for an 8350 just dropped!
Ha, I hadn't thought of that. I hope that doesn't happen or they'll have devalued probably the best option for lower cost gaming, and out-priced themselves by miles on this one.
There was always an element of that though.
The 8350 is otherwise an 8320, but there is an implication that 8350 was cherry picked silicon. They moved the goal post onwards a bit that's all.
I just hope this stirs up some interest in the AM3+ platform, it seems to be limping a bit judging by the not that impressive motherboard choice.
The FM2 socket isn't quite up to my needs yet. If they did a part with half the shaders and 6 cores or a huge amount of cache then I might be interested, but there isn't one.
It seems to be priced around the same as a Core i7 4770K on Amazon.So what, £349 in the UK?
Mention of Jaguar core roadmap:
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/31...track-for-2014
Hopefully this is not true:
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20130716PD202.html
The GF 28NM process is a half node shrink of the 32NM process and is meant not to be SOI either,and still they have problems with ramping up production of larger chips??
TSMC had loads of problems with 28 as well if I remember correctly. Obviously probably not comparable, but still, it seems a tricky one!
I thought it was still an `unknown` where would fab these? both glofo and tsmc have been mentioned.
I just hope AMD can get mobile version of Kaveri out before Intel releases their dual core 14NM mobile CPUs.
Edit!!
Some more details about the PS4:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/16/s...pment-kit-fcc/
Possible maximum 2.75GHZ clockspeed for the CPU?? OTH,a comment states it might be something to do with the wireless portion of the console.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 16-07-2013 at 10:47 PM.
Just done a bit of searching on the subject, and Extremetech suggest, if true, it could be down to fab capacity - GloFo's 28nm line also has the fairly large die console chips to deal with ATM, and who knows, maybe AMD might actually use them for GPUs in the near future?
Either way, it's all just rumours ATM so we'll just have to wait and see. End late 2013 to early 2014 isn't necessarily a huge delay, heck it could be a few days later.
It would be nice if we could see some (more?) Kabini systems soon though!
£660.
Edit:
Makes sense to me: 2.75x2=5.5(5500MHz is a standard figure for the 78xx).lso of note is a "max clock frequency" listing of 2.75GHz, and although we don't know how fast the game system will run by default, it's interesting to hear what all that silicon may be capable of (as a commenter points out below, that may relate to the system's 8GB of GDDR5 RAM)
Kalniel: "Nice review Tarinder - would it be possible to get a picture of the case when the components are installed (with the side off obviously)?"
CAT-THE-FIFTH: "The Antec 300 is a case which has an understated and clean appearance which many people like. Not everyone is into e-peen looking computers which look like a cross between the imagination of a hyperactive 10 year old and a Frog."
TKPeters: "Off to AVForum better Deal - £20+Vat for Free Shipping @ Scan"
for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.
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