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Sir, i might be many things, a fascist perhaps, but a racist no.
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i'm a BNP voter am i?
Sir, i might be many things, a fascist perhaps, but a racist no.
If you want to pay more tax, work harder.
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QFTOriginally Posted by TheAnimus
you sound just like Nick Griffin
really, i'm showing no signs of nationalism, far far from it, i'm instead a capitalist.
If you can't see the distinction then try harder! (either that or your just dumb).
But likening someone unjustly to a antisemitic turd, is a bit harsh really.
Especially considering how my grandfather died in Auswitch concentration camp.
(he fell out of the guard tower!) <-- is this a joke too far?
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Sorry, where on earth did you pull that from- he sounds like a conservative with strong capatilist views but nothing more extreme than that.
You, on the other hand are some sort of communist who doesn't quite understand the political situation in the early 21st century. Its not the late 19th and early 20th century you know.
And as for argueing on the internet, you fail miserably and just sound like a sad envious person.
Not around too often!
ok im sorry, i shouldn't have accused u of being the one who voted BNP in the poll,
it was below the belt, and i appologise.
emmmm. well, im not sure anyone knows the political situation as it stands. The USA is on the brink of financial meltdown and is asking the public for an average of $2000 for every man/woman and child that lives in the country. The money to be used to pay off bad debts, due to irresponsible lending. Sorry if im the only one who thinks thats unfair.
as for the Nick Griffin comment, he also thinks hes not Racist. (read the whited out bit in theAnimus's reply) although it was a joke!!?!
as for my understanding of the future political system, a major shift to the left in world politics or more war, thats what the future holds i guarantee you.
Last edited by j1979; 24-09-2008 at 11:33 AM.
Unfortunately that is not what the rest of your posts portray. Your hatred of the rich says something else.
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The political situation? Do you think that every man woman and child hasn't benefited by $2k? Do you think that these institutes since the last bubble burst haven't contributed that much in taxes?
A major shift to the left, have you ever heard of New Deal? Not the ****ty new labour thing, but the original 1930s design to pull america out of the great depression which had been caused by capitalisim. Guess what the answer was, un-adulterated capitalism thats compassionate. Capitalisim isn't designed to screw over the little people, far from it, it makes more sense to have more people earning more money because they can buy more things which makes more jobs more money for people to buy more things and means that we're not all starving.
If you don't share that view, just go on holiday for 1 week to a communist country.
Also don't confuse a marcarbre joke for racisim, there where plenty of people killed during those years, i'm actually been rude and insulting the memories of all of them.
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i didn't take your joke as being serious, ive edited my post to show that!
i would just like you to answer 1 question. In this capitalistic society, where does the money come from, who feeds us, who clothes us?
We do. We earn money for the clothes and the food. If we cannot afford them ourselves the state can help- that was the nice edition of the welfare state. However if you are not earning yourself you cannot expect to live like those that do.
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You work. You get paid. You spend your money on clothes, food etc which are provided by other people who work, and are paid.
its a simple way of motivation and making people want to better soceity. In a communist society they've often had problems with people who are pushing themselfs, getting no more than someone who works as a dustbinman. But the dustbinman actually has 8 children, which are all un-rulely and poorly educated, so they actually get more resources than the two teachers, who are raising only 2 children, but who's children actually know and understand things, and can be teachers or even more useful themself in one day.
Whilst in some ways its distastful to say some people are more useful to society than others, its a simple fact that THEY ARE!
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well you could call it getting paid i suppose! i wrote a report on fair trade some years back, focused on a major coffee shop chain. Well to cut a long story short, a coffee that was sold at the time for £1.75 per cup of which less then 1p went to the grower, quite a bit less then 1p actually. it worked out as 1/1000th of a penny per £1.75 cup.
it changed the way i thought forever. There was no hope for the grower, or his children for a future or even basic education. so sorry if everyone sees me as a "commie" but ive seen what our life in the west does to people in poorer parts of the world.
Last edited by j1979; 24-09-2008 at 12:24 PM.
the dustbin man example is perfect.
two parallel universes; in one of these all the GPs went on strike. and in the other all the dustbin men went on strike. in both universes people would die as a result! im willing to bet that more would die in the dustbin men strike. and im guessing here, but i recon there are probably about equal numbers of both GPs and dustbin men/women
what do you recon?
You can't keep moving the goal posts.
Farmers don't HAVE to provide coffee for 1st world nations. They could use the land to grow crops for local enconomies, but the fact is that they make more money selling coffee.
Consumers are well within their rights to only buy fairtrade coffee, but not everyone can afford, or will want to do so.
I really don't understand your argument. Are you saying that everyone should earn the same, no matter what they are doing? Who mandates what gets done then? Whoever is in charge will want to be paid more.
Communism will never work as some will always be more even that others, and it requires someone in the centre to mandate what is created, and how it is distributed rather than what the market demands, so you might end up with millions of tonnes of concrete which can't be used when you should have been making bread.
Extreme capitalism will never work because then I could go out and kill an entire village and pay off the police/judges etc and the populous as a whole would never sign off on that. It also allows for no form of social reponsibility which IMHO is a requirement of a developed country. What you can't do, however, is say that because someone earns more than you do, you have a right to have their lifestyle too.
I reckon you're not the sharpest tool in the box.
Are you seriously telling me that you think that Doctors are dustbin men are interchangable? If there was a mass dustbin man strike, people would take their own rubbish to the dump, or councils would have other people come in and do the work.
No disrespect to dustbin men, they do an essential job, but it doesn't require years of training.
If all the doctors in the UK went on strike, you would have mass fatalities. Who's going to prescribe drugs? Who is going to set bones? Who is going to operate on people? Who would man the A+E to patch up people who had been in road traffic accidents?
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