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    months they are usually very slow also if you dont have a witness you wont get very far with this, they would require someone to corroborate your side of the story otherwise in a court of law itll be your word against his also t******ers like this usually have a few mates who are willing to lie they were there and in front of a court make out they are nice people who were just trying to help when you started on them..it was self defence your honour...happened to me I lost the case and he got £6000 for nrly killing me in my car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiato storm
    indeed i shall...how long does it take police to investigate things like this usually? days, weeks months?
    In my case, he was arrested same day. Statements tooks couple of days then, IIRC, couple of weeks to get to court.

    Have to say that it's quite often CPS that drag their heals. Not got oodles of time for police generally, but sometimes it aint actually their fault. But keep pressing mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanov
    months they are usually very slow also if you dont have a witness you wont get very far with this, they would require someone to corroborate your side of the story otherwise in a court of law itll be your word against his also t******ers like this usually have a few mates who are willing to lie they were there and in front of a court make out they are nice people who were just trying to help when you started on them..it was self defence your honour...happened to me I lost the case and he got £6000 for nrly killing me in my car.
    But yes, witnesses make a MASSIVE difference.

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    still, been reading the police booklet they give you and you can get all sorts of orders put on people...and if this punk already has a lengthy record already then just another to the list.
    i think i'll call the police to see if anything further has been done. they already rung me yesterday (i.e. the very next day after it happened) to check for more details so I'm guessing its being oved on up the system...no harm in checking.
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    ***UPDATE number 2***

    so, i get a call from the police today, as i'm cycling along bizaarly!
    anyway, the deal is like this; since my injuries were not serious i.e. no blood spurting everywhere, the police cannot go out and hunt the goon down and arrest him just like that. there are apparently two types of assault classifications, at least for my circumstance anyway, first one was something like GBH the next is plain old assault.
    I have two options:
    a) leave it be and everything gets dropped, The End.
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    b) go ahead with the next stage which follows a process of first me giving a FULL statement [the one I gave first of all on the day was just a brief account of the incident, all be it detailed]. Then I have to identify the guy at an ID parade. Then it all gets sent to court and done all officially that way.

    now, unfortunately I have no witnesses, at least the people who walked past did nothing to stop what happened to me, and I'll be honest, i forget the number plate of the on coming car I almost got pushed into when this all happened. the lorry though did park at a bus stop so maybe someone might have been there at the time - question is how the f* do I find out? and then get them to say what happened? buses use the road so maybe one saw what happened? is it the police's job to look for witnesses at all? as there were houses around that quite possibly someone saw something from...?

    what ever the out come I'm more inclined to press forwards than drop it as next time someone might actually be killed, not just threatened and almost killed as I was...as I understand that perhaps nothing will happen without witnesses. and the muppet's co-driver isn't likely to be any help now is he?

    I asked the old man [a barrister] but criminal law not his area, he suggested waiting a bit to see if DFS come back to me with anything - think I'll call them [yet again] tomorrow. I'm worried though that if I wait too long then might find ID parade bit of a waste of time and an account of the events might not be so detailed...

    so, any advice?
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    got a dictaphone? get your account of the events down on that while they are still fresh in your mind, that way if you do decide to push things forward, you'll have a nice clear account down on tape to refer to later. if needed. just an idea.

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    or not even a dictaphone, how about paper? and a room where u wont be disturbed.... sit down and think very carefully about what happened then write it down in sequence


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    yup, get it down on paper now while it's still fresh in your mind
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    it is down on epaper...3pages ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom
    it is down on epaper...3pages ago
    oooops only trying to help


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    hehe...yeah, i have it all down on paper and I'm keeping a little note pad on me most of the time at the moment just in case stuff comes to me whilst I'm doing something else - subconscious mind works in a funny way! - so far I have recalled that the lorry when it finally stopped after hitting me so the driver could jump out and attack me, was actually stopped in a bus stop. you know, in the yellow road markings where the bus stops...
    i thought it was illegal to stop at a bus stop.

    i also remembered a couple of other minor points - and since I cycle the route pretty much every day for the past 5yrs (!) i know it quite well, including the new traffic islands only put in the last month or so [which are a real pain in the *rse by the way...], so I sort of 're-enacted' what happened to check my story. luckily for me it still fits with the original statement I gave the police.
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    oh man. I've been stitched up. think you'll all find this rather disgusting but here goes.

    the guy who ran me off the road claimed that I was in the middle of the road not letting him pass intentionally, and his co-driver has backed this up [i.e. like he's going to inciminate his mate...think not.]. And once stopped the co-driver called the police - apparently - and told them 'something about to get nasty'...of course what he failed to mention is that the lorry hit me off the road and then the driver hit me but its not as if the co-driver is going to help is it?...
    so, in the eyes of the law it's going to look like I'm in the wrong cause thanks to lack of witnesses on my side i can't back anything up.
    WTF is wrong with this F*ing Country?!!??? why does no one bother to stop and help anyone in obvious trouble??

    cause some hooligan is p*ssed off at the football he can take it out on me with his equally scummy mate? bunch of F*ers...
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    Thats crap

    Problem is there is not much you can do about it unless you can find a witness who will talk.

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    Are there any bus stops close to there? There may well be people who are there every day at that time, so if you stick up notices asking for help and witnesses...

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    I wouldn't go riding tomorrow if I were you. England are playing tonight and the mentally challenged will be looking for outlets for their frustrations by the morning. Either that or a celebratory punch up.

    My son want's to join the police force. I hope he changes his mind or it seems he'll spend his life having his hands tied by scrotes like your fat 'friend' whilst telling decent people such as you that they shouldn't go upsetting the feelings of retarded thugs and warning you not to bruise their knuckles with your chin in future. While you're at it, stop running lorries off the road with your bike.

    It stinks when you are stitched up by the system that is supposed to protect you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiato storm
    oh man. I've been stitched up. think you'll all find this rather disgusting but here goes.

    the guy who ran me off the road claimed that I was in the middle of the road not letting him pass intentionally, and his co-driver has backed this up [i.e. like he's going to inciminate his mate...think not.]. And once stopped the co-driver called the police - apparently - and told them 'something about to get nasty'...of course what he failed to mention is that the lorry hit me off the road and then the driver hit me but its not as if the co-driver is going to help is it?...
    so, in the eyes of the law it's going to look like I'm in the wrong cause thanks to lack of witnesses on my side i can't back anything up.
    WTF is wrong with this F*ing Country?!!??? why does no one bother to stop and help anyone in obvious trouble??

    cause some hooligan is p*ssed off at the football he can take it out on me with his equally scummy mate? bunch of F*ers...
    Ive been stitched up by the police many a time because of "lack of witnesses". Really gets my goat... Want me to be a witness?

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