AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Llano is launching in the middle of the month and Bulldozer is supposedly looking great:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/computers/...n-tablets/6016

[Biscuit]

What is 3 months when we've been waiting for years anyway?

3 more months of my bloody 775 system, i want to change! I want USB3.0 built in, i want SATA 6, i want crossfire/sli... i just want to do something new, put something nice and shiney in my new case.

Can i wait another 3 months? Yeah i guess i can buy some of the other bits and spread the costs a bit but why bother when i dont really see it overtaking intels high end chips anyway? The only reason i can think of is that with AMD at least you have the possibility that the platform as a whole wont necessarily all be killed off and i wont be forced to upgrade the whole thing every time i want to change. Its a pretty big point to be fair but is it enough?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

3 more months of my bloody 775 system, i want to change! I want USB3.0 built in, i want SATA 6, i want crossfire/sli... i just want to do something new, put something nice and shiney in my new case.

Can i wait another 3 months? Yeah i guess i can buy some of the other bits and spread the costs a bit but why bother when i dont really see it overtaking intels high end chips anyway? The only reason i can think of is that with AMD at least you have the possibility that the platform as a whole wont necessarily all be killed off and i wont be forced to upgrade the whole thing every time i want to change. Its a pretty big point to be fair but is it enough?

My gaming rig has a 975X motherboard,a Q6600 currently at stock clockspeeds and an HD5850 1GB. It also seems the SATA controller is on the fritz after having the motherboard for 4 and a half years.

OTH,I have a Core i3 2100 as my everyday use PC(because of the problems with the Shuttle) but the modified Shuttle case is limited to shorter graphics cards such as an HD5670. Investing in a case like an SG07 or Q08 would have been nice but beyond what I want to spend for a while.

If the motherboard wasn't flaky then I would have stuck with the Q6600 until next year TBH!

[Biscuit]

My gaming rig has a 975X motherboard,a Q6600 currently at stock clockspeeds and an HD5850 1GB. It also seems the SATA controller is on the fritz after having the motherboard for 4 and a half years.

OTH,I have a Core i3 2100 as my everyday use PC(because of the problems with the Shuttle) but the modified Shuttle case is limited to shorter graphics cards such as an HD5670. Investing in a case like an SG07 or Q08 would have been nice but beyond what I want to spend for a while.

If the motherboard wasn't flaky then I would have stuck with the Q6600 until next year TBH!

Each to their own, i just like new stuff and im not denying the performance differences with what i use it for will be all but negligible until i upgrade my GPU when the next generations appear but i dont care... its that time.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I tend to try and get the maximum use out of my PCs which I suppose means I generally try to keep a computer as long as possible. I was still using an XP2800 until the end of 2006(although it was fine for running most games at that time). Hence, I only tend to do full upgrades when the computer is either too slow for my purposes or starting to get unreliable. OTH,I tend to have two desktops so I suppose it is easier to pace upgrades that way.

[Terbinator]

WTH is Trinity? I just keep expecting to see press release slides of 'the bomb'.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

WTH is Trinity? I just keep expecting to see press release slides of 'the bomb'.

It is the successor to Llano. Intead of being based on the Phenom II it will based on the second iteration of Bulldozer.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

HardOCP did say they may show Bulldozer at an event they are holding in July:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1610493

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Bulldozer on LN2 supposedly:

http://diybbs.zol.com.cn/10/11_99255.html

AFAIK,it is the same website which had some benchmarks of Llano recently.

[Biscuit]

Do you have like 10 screens running each with a different forum on auto refresh new posts or something? :/

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Do you have like 10 screens running each with a different forum on auto refresh new posts or something? :/

I know where to look!!

[dfour]

Do you have like 10 screens running each with a different forum on auto refresh new posts or something? :/

Why do you thing cat has so many pcs with ati cards in?? Eyefinity anyone ??

In all honesty I would rather wait until they have solved as many problems as possible that AMD turn up to the table with a half baked product that will reduce there name to dust in a second with the enthusiast crowd. My money is earning (almost no) interest in the bank waiting for BD to turn up

I am thinking a nice shiney ROG AM3+ motherboard and 8 gig of 1866 ddr 3 might not go amis until BD arrives

[Max Tractor]

I get the feeling they seem to be focusing more and more of the efforts on products which do well in the mobile space. First Zacate and now Llano. I suppose there is a method to the madness as desktop sales are declining and many desktop sales are still lower end models

I agree, the friends request for new build towers are almost non existent, I get asked now "what do you think of this laptop". I think us desktop user are becoming a dying breed.



Those waiting/new customers for AMD BD would wait if they new the wait was worth it.

[bigizzman]

Would somebody please point me in the right direction.

Has anybody got a spec sheet or actual bench tests for BD?

With respect all I can find is hearsay, surely somebody can tell me in real terms what sort of performance gains are to be had from BD

What will 2 more cores plus improved number crunching give in terms of % gain over a high end i7

All I want is ball park figures 1,5,10,50% because if its less than 30% I'm off to Intel

Thanks

[Max Tractor]

@bigizzman

This is the problem and the frustration of people reading the varying threads on BD is very clear. If the current stepping is fine then why not release benchmarks

[kalniel]

surely somebody can tell me in real terms what sort of performance gains are to be had from BD

What will 2 more cores plus improved number crunching give in terms of % gain over a high end i7

All I want is ball park figures 1,5,10,50% because if its less than 30% I'm off to Intel

Thanks

We can't answer because it's too soon. When it's released we'll know, but you're asking us to predict the future!