Who's waiting for Nvidia Fermi

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Touted to be entering production 3rd week of Feb http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/live-...-february.html

And it's looking like Nvidia is kicking XFX in the face for joining ATi and removing them from their list of approved manufacturers for European operation and won't be included in the Fermi announcement. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=243009 (however this is contrary: http://www.nordichardware.com/news,10551.html)
It's a pity if the link saying that they are sticking by them is true, i thought we might finally see the back of them

All speculation at the minute of course... But sounds about right for the green team...

The Tom's Hardware article supposedly says that Fermi will have better yields than the RV870!!

This sounds a tad weird as Fermi is meant to be a much bigger chip than the RV870!!

Edit!!

Looks like the Tom's Hardware article has been pulled!!

[handscombmp]

Sounds though like the card will run hot though which may put me off buying it as i want a quieter pc.

From the look of it a couple of us though are interested in buying the chip but are slowing going to the red side due to the delays.

[scaryjim]

The only thing I'm really interested, as far as Fermi goes, is whether they manage to proliferate the architecture throughout the entire price range. ATI did this very successfully with the 4 series; they are meant to be doing this with the 5 series (when are the next batch of launches due? Within the next couple of weeks?). NVidia failed miserably to do this with G200 (is that the right codename?) - nothing less powerful than a GTX260 for - what, over a year? - with last year's rebranded 8 series getting another rebrand And now they're so late to the party that ATI will be half way to releasing their next architecture before we even see the flagship Fermi product, let alone any of the lower power derivatives.

I was waiting for Fermi - I was very interested to see what new features NVidia could bring to the table. But frankly I may as well be waiting for Godot...

[Pob255]

I'm still waiting for Fermi, even if it turns out to be nothing special, the reason is simple.
Price and not just the price iof Fermi, but also ATi and 200 series

ATM ATi have got it nicely sewn up andcan pritty much charge what they want for their cards, with the dissaperence of the higher end 4xxx series the priices of the few remaining high end nvidia cards has also gone up.

Last relaible thing about the Fermi relsease date I read, was still just Q1 2010, so that's end of jan to eairly April by nvidia's quartly timeings.

[=assassin=]

I'm waiting for Fermi to arrive and be fast enough so that I can get a 5870 cheap around June/July when I hopefully will be getting a new PC

[Biscuit]

Well aside form the usual drive to have more power which i have semi-learned to ignore im quite happy with what i have on the games i play. If BF:BC2 turns out to be the poer hungry beast that its predicted to be then may upgrade then but unlikely it will be before.

[jonathan_phang]

I've been out of the GPU market for a reasonably long time now, my GPU being the 8800GTS 512, but although the features of Fermi that have been touted sound really cool, I just dont think that it will be offered at a price that competes with say, a 4890 now, or the 5850?

I just cant justify more that £150 (maybe £200 tops if its really amazing value) either, as stated by others earlier, and I just cant see Nvidia hitting that segment with anything competitve. I think I'm just gonna get a 4890 second hand for now, sell what I have to part fund it, use that for 6 months or more and see where the prices are.

Will also have more benches on this years big games and that will go some way to determining whether or not I will even need to upgrade, Fermi or not.

[Stoo]

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=858&type=expert

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...facts_opinions

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

According to Anandtech power consumption is going to be higher than the GT200 series:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3721

So basically it is going to be like the last round with Nvidia have higher performing and more expensive part to produce part whereas ATI has smaller cheaper parts with lower performance.

Like I said before since the top card had been rumoured to have 512 stream processors for a while so it is like to be faster than a GTX295 or a pair of GTX285 cards in SLI(480 stream processors in both cases). So basically the new single chip Nvidia card is faster than the previous generation X2 card! The same happened with the 9800GX2 and would be enough to suggest that the top end Fermi card is faster than an HD5870 or basically challenging an HD5970.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

There is a performance preview in this article:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...oscope-13.html

The graphs are from Nvidia it seems.



I have added a graph from the HD5870 review the website did.




Both test systems used Core i7 processors at over 3GHZ with 6GB of RAM.

A Core i7 at 2.6GHZ does not even bottleneck an HD5970:

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=869&p=8

[Terbinator]

the anandtech article produced today is quite good IMO.

[Infinite]

Cool cool cool, we got some tessellation, some better AA and 3D Surround. But wait we still don't know anything about the card itself. I find HardOCP sums this up perfectly and frankly im finding this a joke. nVidia have spent god knows how many years working on this card and "2 months" before release they still can't give any specifics. Seriously wth have the hardware engineers been doing.

However, right now there are unknown variables about the GF100. While we have a good idea about the inner workings of the GPU, there are other factors we simply do not know yet. Not much is really known about pixel shader performance. Without knowing how the clock domains are setup, and what the actual clock speeds are, we can’t even guess at what pixel shading performance will actually be like.

Then there are the variables that will make or break this GPU. We don’t know what the cost of video cards based on this GPU will be. We don’t know how much power this GPU is going to demand and what kind of power supply will be required to operate it. We don’t know the kind of heat output it will generate and what kind of cooling solutions will be required. We don’t know NVIDIA’s production and yields of this GPU. Lastly, we don’t know what availability is going to be like.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Cool cool cool, we got some tessellation, some better AA and 3D Surround. But wait we still don't know anything about the card itself. I find HardOCP sums this up perfectly and frankly im finding this a joke. nVidia have spent god knows how many years working on this card and "2 months" before release they still can't give any specifics. Seriously wth have the hardware engineers been doing.

More importantly - what is Nvidia going to launch in the sub £200 pound price bracket?? The £50 to £150 price segment is very important.

Instead of trying to awe us with the top parts they really need to start releasing some info about the cheaper parts soon!

[shaithis]

Haven't they already released the low-end parts? i.e. previous generations, re-branded?

Perhaps that is nVidias new marketing model?

[Terbinator]

Haven't they already released the low-end parts? i.e. previous generations, re-branded?

Perhaps that is nVidias new marketing model?

You know, i think you've actually hit on the head there.

[ajones]

You know, i think you've actually hit on the head there.

Hang on.. not sure that's right....

... because the previous generation's previous generation were top high end parts for the previous generation weren't they?...

So that would make the new generations low end parts the previous generation's previous generation high end parts.

Or am I just stating the obvious?