Folding Chit-Chat

[watercooled]

Interesting, I might just give it a go - run the next WU on Linux and see how it does.

[nibbler]

if you run it on linux then that might interfere with your quest for 10 WUs I'm not sure, apparently it's per client, although I've been fine moving OS and still getting bonus points with my username.

[Tattysnuc]

if you run it on linux then that might interfere with your quest for 10 WUs I'm not sure, apparently it's per client, although I've been fine moving OS and still getting bonus points with my username.

You just have to submit 10 work units with a Pass key to qualify for the bonus. I'm fairly sure it's not "per client," more likely just a qualification to "weed out the chaff" that try folding once, and then don't continue with it.

[nibbler]

Sure, that is my experience but I heard it mentioned, probably wrong.

[watercooled]

Could I not just set the machine ID the same as it would still be on the same system i.e. I couldn't fold on both simultaneously by mistake.

[Golden Dragoon]

You think? I've got 2 loops:

CPU Loop:
Koolance 450X2 -> D5 -> Phobya 3.120 Rad -> Swiftech GTZ -> EK X58 block -> Black ice 1.120 -> Rad

GFX Loop:
Koolance 450X2 -> D5 -> Swiftech 2.120 Rad -> EK GTX 480 -> EK GTX 480 -> Swiftech 2.120 -> Rad

Temps are taken while running folding BIGADV continuously with fans on low (high makes minimal difference). Overclock is 4.0Ghz not 3.8 Ghz as stated, and this is using the Bios' voltage selections and has not been tuned yet as this was just a quick test which surprised me as being stable!

It's not worse that my 980X rig was. I don't think that I have an issue, but I am surprise at your temps. Is that taken under folding @ 100% load? The i7's with the 12 threads are rated at nearly 150 Watts at the settings I'm running.... What's a Q6600 rated at, I forget?

Forgot that your i7 was a 12 thread monster, the stock wattage of the Q6600 is about 100W, but I have bumped the voltage, and a much higher clock so I expect the power draw to be much higher, the temp figures were all taken with intel burn test, typical folding temps are a couple of C lower, and the 3.8ghz figures are not exactly 100% stable, more like 99% and as I said I don't use those clocks, they were just me attempting to get the max possible clock.

[Golden Dragoon]

OK, geekiness satisfied. After artificially limiting my SMP folding to 3 cores (and setting CPU affinity in task manager so it ran 3 cores @ 100% and not 1 @ 100% and the other three at various amounts as threads got core shifted ) my Opteron @ 2.5GHz is getting 3.1Kppd on a 500K WU, as opposed to ~ 4.5K with all 4 cores going. IMNSHO a Q6600 *should* perform a little better at folding than a 2.5GHz Opteron, so I'm going to stick my neck out and say 3.5K on 500K units (although that means you'll drop off to about 2.5K if you pick up a 2M ).

I cannot comment on the stock figures for a Q6600, as mine only stayed at that for a couple of hours when I first got it.
But mine running at 3.3ghz is currently getting 4590ppd (folding with a GTX460 as well on Win7 HP 64) and my Athlon II X4 3.2ghz (stock speed) is getting 4597ppd (folding with a GT240 on Vista HP 64) and is generally 1-2 seconds faster per frame than the Q6600, though right now it is showing the same frame times and on different projects they have both shown over 5500ppd.

I can assume that the Athlon is slightly faster mostly because of the built in memory controller, and the fact that my C2D system is using DDR2 while the Athlon is using 1333mhz DDR3 as when compared against each other in Sandras benchmarks the Athlon looses on every test except the memory ones which it dominates, though the tests it looses in, it is never that much slower the worst result was the crypto tests where one of the results was ~10% lower

Q6600 System:
Q6600@3.3ghz
6gb DDR2
Gigabyte X48 mobo
Geforce GTX460
Windows 7 home premium (64bit)

Athlon system:
Athlon II X3 450 (Unlocked to quad 3.2ghz stock, in a htpc case so won't try to overclock)
2gb DDR3
Asus 780g mATX mobo
Geforce GT240
Windows Vista home premium (64bit)

[Tattysnuc]

Forgot that your i7 was a 12 thread monster, the stock wattage of the Q6600 is about 100W, but I have bumped the voltage, and a much higher clock so I expect the power draw to be much higher, the temp figures were all taken with intel burn test, typical folding temps are a couple of C lower, and the 3.8ghz figures are not exactly 100% stable, more like 99% and as I said I don't use those clocks, they were just me attempting to get the max possible clock.

You're right - it is high. Especially for the amount of cooling I'm running there.

Just found a kink in the hose to the CPU. Going to power down now and sort it out. Opening it out has dropped the temp already!

[Golden Dragoon]

I ran my system like yours once, with all my tubing hidden away around the edges, but it was a nightmare to sort out everytime I installed a new mobo and it always kinked, so nowadays I just let it all hang out with minimal routing, no danger of getting kinks the way I have it, though not exactly the best looking thing.

[Tattysnuc]

I ran my system like yours once, with all my tubing hidden away around the edges, but it was a nightmare to sort out everytime I installed a new mobo and it always kinked, so nowadays I just let it all hang out with minimal routing, no danger of getting kinks the way I have it, though not exactly the best looking thing.

I wouldn;t mind, but it was the tubing coming from the rad at the top to the CPU. I've rotated the CPU block 180 Degrees and cut the tube shorter. It actually looks neater to me now which is also nice.

Back up and folding. Total downtime = 1 walk of dog + 20 mins clamping and careful draining.

This is why the unit is sat on my desk for the first week following a build. I wouln;t have looked for that had you not said, so +1 thanks!

[scaryjim]

I can assume that the Athlon is slightly faster mostly because of the built in memory controller, and the fact that my C2D system is using DDR2 while the Athlon is using 1333mhz DDR3 ...

I think the Athlon II X4 being a monolithic quad core helps when running heavily threaded workloads: the Core2 quads are MCMs so communication between each pair of cores happens across FSB (afaik, anyway) which must slow them down a bit in heavily threaded tasks...

[Tattysnuc]

who is this Wobbler88? They are storming up the charts! 25k ppd!!!!!

[1stRaven]

who is this Wobbler88? They are storming up the charts! 25k ppd!!!!!

Hats off to him, whoever he is!

[Tattysnuc]

I was rather hoping with a name like Wobbler88 that they'd be a lady. Do we have any of the fairer sex folding for us?

If my wife's anything to go by, they'll all probably be too busy looking at shoes or sparkly things to be able to fold....

[watercooled]

I've just had an idea - until I start getting bonus points, would I be better off running 6 normal folding cores, each with a core to itself? I'm not sure how long they take but that way I'd get 6 WU's at a time. I don't care about how many points I'd get because without the bous points you get basically nothing whatever core you use.

[Tattysnuc]

I think that as long as it has the same passkey, then that should work. My theory is it's a count of returns by user by passkey, therefore it's worth a try IMHO.

The Worse case is that 5 SMP's return WU's for basic points, and 1 gets the points registered.