AMD - Bulldozer Chitchat

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Out of interest, any news on transistor count?

Massive??

It is safe to say it will be over a billion transistors!! After all Bulldozer does have 16MB of L2 and L3 cache. Even the Phenom II X6 had only 9MB of L2 and L3 cache.

[EvanJackPenn]

There's going to be a new socket for the 2nd gen bulldozer (I think this means )

2nd Generation

AMD Financial Analyst Day 2010, revealed the 2nd generation is to be scheduled for 2012. AMD currently refers to this as Enhanced Bulldozer.

This new generation of Bulldozer core is codenamed Piledriver and will be incorporated into specific desktop and notebook markets:

Desktop Performance market (Corona platform): Zambezi will be replaced by Komodo (up to 10 cores). Komodo will feature Turbo Core 3.0 under the newer Socket FM2 format

Do you think there will be backwards compatability? I don't really want to buy an AM3+ mobo and then have to buy another if I want to upgrade to the next BD...

[shaithis]

I highly doubt there will be compatibility between AMx and FMx ever....and if wiki is right, then the AMx sockets may be due to end...

Either way.....the AM3+ boards are quite cheap and youy won't be seeing "BD E" until possibly 2013.....

[watercooled]

Yeah TBH I think it's quite unlikely future BD with IGP will use the same socket. They've done a decent job of keeping this socket for as long as they have though!

[EvanJackPenn]

I don't think this will tip me, TBH. To me, it all depends on the gaming benchmarks.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Interesting:

http://www.sisoftware.co.uk/rank2011...dcbb885b5&l=en

[Goobley]

Thats quite an interesting chip that engineering sample, at twelve corse but with such a low clock speed it sounds to me much more like a server board, and those replacing the opteron maybe?

In fact it actually says on one of those pages Virtual Machine: 2 x Opteron...
SO yes finding out xhat chips they are would be interesting

[Hicks12]

thats a shame am socket will end... just as im waiting for BD to see what its like (hoping it kicks ass ofc) then get that or intel, now this is just a slight downer, i havent upgraded since buying my current rig (mobo and ram and e8400 were bought over 3 years ago, straight on release date) but i would have upgraded my cpu a bit ago if there was something better than the poop 45nm quads that were so overpriced. Now this just makes it seem like im going to be in the same situation if i go with amd lol.

the successor sounds like its going to dominate with the NB being incoporated into the chip and HT 3.0 and 10 cores lol... i do wonder what quarter it will land in 2012, if its q1 (am i being to hopeful?) then i guess i will consider waiting, if not then i will keep BD on my list as i guess its still better than Intel as its 1 socket 1 chip still or so it seems lol! Atleast AMD boards are generally cheaper

[EvanJackPenn]

the successor sounds like its going to dominate with the NB being incoporated into the chip and HT 3.0 and 10 cores lol... i do wonder what quarter it will land in 2012, if its q1 (am i being to hopeful?) then i guess i will consider waiting, if not then i will keep BD on my list as i guess its still better than Intel as its 1 socket 1 chip still or so it seems lol! Atleast AMD boards are generally cheaper

I think that's rediculously hopeful

My problem is that I want to buy around Christmas time. But you've got Ivy and the upgraded BD coming out later that year, and NVIDIA kepler. *Sigh*

[Hicks12]

extremely hopeful... thats the way i like it .

I want to buy mine september time lol, only been waiting for BD to come out to compare AMD with Intel. but with ivy bridge comming in q1 (or atleast from what ive read) it just makes me feel like waiting more lol, so many choices!

[EvanJackPenn]

extremely hopeful... thats the way i like it .

I want to buy mine september time lol, only been waiting for BD to come out to compare AMD with Intel. but with ivy bridge comming in q1 (or atleast from what ive read) it just makes me feel like waiting more lol, so many choices!

I've heard it has been delayed to around march/april time

[kalniel]

I've heard it has been delayed to around march/april time

That's still Q1

[shaithis]

http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/...-Leaked-3.png/

Interesting (especially as it's a pure FPU test), although not getting carried away yet

EDIT: Also... http://lenzfire.com/2011/07/amd-bull...nalised-24475/

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Supposedly,Bulldozer yields are fine:

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...the-issue.aspx

Llano had yield issues due to the GPU side.

[j.o.s.h.1408]

That's still Q1

delayed till next year? what a load of balls. this chip was suppose to come out ages ago near the time sandybidge came ouT.

AMD is finished!

[kopite]

delayed till next year? what a load of balls. this chip was suppose to come out ages ago near the time sandybidge came ouT.

AMD is finished!

Thats the apu`s I think

The Bulldozer CPU`s are still on track for this month afaik