P5K Deluxe Wifi AP Thread.

[Mad-Max]

Arr, well I've only done the 0311 because of the 2t/2t timing settings

I also had to clear cmos and remove 1 stick of ram to get it to boot

/me go looking for the 04** bios

[5aboy]

hi,

just a quick question - is the xp90C likely to fit on this board? i got the mounting plate and will not be recieving my stuff until friday, and need to know if itll fit, else i should look at something more modern - ultra120X?

thanks.

[Clunk]

Arr, well I've only done the 0311 because of the 2t/2t timing settings

I also had to clear cmos and remove 1 stick of ram to get it to boot

/me go looking for the 04** bios

Regarding the ram.

I found that it gives you 1 free boot, in so much as it will boot if your ram isnt set properly, and if you change the voltage on the first boot, you are ok for the next time, but if you forget, it locks you out and you have to remove one stick to post.

Also, it did that the most for me when one of my sticks of ram was on the way out...hasnt done it since i changed to the crucial

[RRA]

Hi, everyone!
It's my first post here, i just found this thread after ordering myself a P5k and a Q6600 (and then some)
(I'll be running Debian...)
I'll probably receive them within a week (At least i hope, the Q6600 was BOed at ncix for some reason even though it showed it was in stock at multiple warehouses!?) and since I'm a complete newb on OCing issues, i was wondering if you guys could help me a bit...

My goal is not to modify my setup as i think it will be pretty silent but i was just wondering what would the maximum (very) stable config be. Running it at 3Ghz (25% more) would suit me


So here are the specs:

Case:
P182 Black
Corsair CMPSU-620HX

CPU/HeatSink/Board/Ram/Cards:
Q6600 (105W)
Scythe Ninja Plus Rev.B
P5k-Deluxe
OCZ Platinum XTC PC2-8500 2X1GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15
EVGA 8800GTS 640MB

I'll also have an extra Noctua 120mm fan... So i can swap it with the Ninja+'s one if it's better that way and I'll user the left over fan for the case.

What do you think? What BIOS settings should i be using?

[Clunk]

Have a read of the guide in my sig

You have to realise that quad core cpus can run really hot when overclocked. A small amount of extra voltage can really send the temps soaring, so, if your cpu is one of the ones that needs a good amount of voltage, you wont get far with that cooling.

[Phil_P]

Hi, everyone!
It's my first post here, i just found this thread after ordering myself a P5k and a Q6600 (and then some)
(I'll be running Debian...)
I'll probably receive them within a week (At least i hope, the Q6600 was BOed at ncix for some reason even though it showed it was in stock at multiple warehouses!?) and since I'm a complete newb on OCing issues, i was wondering if you guys could help me a bit...

My goal is not to modify my setup as i think it will be pretty silient but i was just wondering what would the maximum (very) stable config would be. Running it at 3Ghz (25% more) would suit me


So here are the specs:

Case:
P182 Black
Corsair CMPSU-620HX

CPU/HeatSink/Board/Ram/Cards:
Q6600 (105W)
Scythe Ninja Plus Rev.B
P5k-Deluxe
OCZ Platinum XTC PC2-8500 2X1GB DDR2-1066 CL5-5-5-15
EVGA 8800GTS 640MB

I'll also have an extra Noctua 120mm fan... So i can swap it with the Ninja+'s one if it's better that way and I'll user the left over fan for the case.

What do you think? What BIOS settings should i be using?

Like Clunk said, the Q6600 runs really hot when overclocked.

The Ninja works very well with a push/pull dual fan arrangement, so I'd strap the second fan on the other side. See here:

http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling...spx?i=2965&p=1

Note, your Q6600 will be dissipating more heat at full load than their fully overclocked X6800 in that review (they maxed out at about 160W whereas you could easily be pulling 180W at 3GHz on a Q6600). That should give you an idea of what you're dealing with!

[Agrippa]

Stock voltage on the Q6600 is 1.25, is that right? If so, 1.5V should see the chip pulling just about 175W. If the chip is an ok clocker, it shouldn't need quite that much for 3GHz, should it?

Btw, what's the safe voltage range for a Q6600 would you say?

[Stele]

Hi all,

This has been a very interesting and informative thread, especially with regards to what this board can do - hoping to pick one up in a few months' time Thanks for sharing with us the results of your efforts on the board, Clunk!

just wondering exactly which models of this motherboard exist, now that i have decided to go for it.

i have seen
p5k vanilla (no heatpipes, ICH9, etc)
p5k wifi deluxe (heatpipes, ICH9R, more stuff)
p5k-e -?????

P5K deluxe and P5K-E share the same PCB, like the Striker Extreme and P5N32-E SLI and unlike the P5K 'vanilla'. The P5K-E can hence be considered the "non-deluxe" version of the P5K deluxe, yet not quite a "vanilla" board which the P5K (and the derivatives thereof) is.

Compared to the P5K Deluxe, the P5K-E loses the Realtek 8110SC PCI GbE controller and uses a simpler heatpipe design - very similar to that on the P5B Deluxe actually. However, Asus then went on and dropped the passive heatsink for the MOSFETs on the board's edge as well... not sure if the actual retail versions changed that, but if not, imho that last one is a bit overboard insofar as lowering costs is concerned; wonder how much they saved compared to the cooling performance lost

Other than that, the two are almost identical in all other respects. There are some rumours about further cost reduction measures such as reducing the number of MOSFETs per phase and so on, but I haven't seen any solid evidence of that so far.

In short, to answer your question, the two models of this board that exist are the P5K Deluxe and the P5K-E.

[Stele]

Nice board, I only wish that the ide connector was up higher out of the way

My thoughts too. I suppose it had to be lower down due to PCB trace routing considerations (sure it can be done, but perhaps that might result in a less-than-optimal routing of various traces and hence less-than-optimal performance/stability).

On another note which is the best lan connection to use on this board, as I thought that Marvell was the better choice over the Realtek as the second lan will go for the ethernet modem ?

Well the Marvell is definitely better. The Marvell controller is an 88E8056, which is a PCIe device, compared to the PCI-based Realtek 8110SC. Furthermore, Realtek's GbE controllers have generally been regarded as fairly mediocre in performance (throughput, CPU utilisation etc).

It would have been better if Asus used a non-PCI controller, especially for GbE, but the limitation is largely due to the fact that ICH9 (and ICH8) sport a miserable 6 PCIe x1 lanes. 4 goes to the secondary PEG slot, one goes to the JMicron controller, so only one lane's left for anything else. (As a side note, this is why P965 and P35 boards only support CrossFire over x16/x4, not x16/x16 or x8/x8 - the upcoming ROG version of the P5K, called Blitz, would support x8/x8 though by using a PCIe switch IC to split the x16 from the MCH).

Having said that though, if I'm not wrong, ICH9 introduces an onboard MAC, which just needs the appropriate PHY like the Nvidia chipsets, so it is possible to avoid the PCI bottleneck for a 2nd GbE feature. No motherboard manufacturer seems to have taken this up though, probably either because Intel sneakily designed it to use a non-standard link with the PHY, requiring Intel-designed PHYs (recall CSA anyone?) or, perhaps more likely, the manufacturers wanted to save time and resources by using tried and tested solutions and surplus inventory (Asus has used the 8110SC on some earlier motherboards before).

Still, for broadband purposes, the PCI-based Realtek should be sufficient since you're not likely to even hit 10Mbps, let alone 1000

[Clunk]

Stock voltage on the Q6600 is 1.25, is that right? If so, 1.5V should see the chip pulling just about 175W. If the chip is an ok clocker, it shouldn't need quite that much for 3GHz, should it?

Btw, what's the safe voltage range for a Q6600 would you say?

I make it;

319w for 1.6v

280w for 1.5v.

There is no safe voltage. Anything over stock can potentially increase the risk of damaging/killing your cpu, so its always a risk.

It does say 1.35v max on the box though

[Stele]

Clunk, is there any way of measuring the temperatures of your board's MCH and CPU's VRM MOSFETs, or at least the temperatures of their heatsinks? e.g. IR/thermocouple thermometer or the like... am curious as to how hot they run at your clocks

[Clunk]

Clunk, is there any way of measuring the temperatures of your board's MCH and CPU's VRM MOSFETs, or at least the temperatures of their heatsinks? e.g. IR/thermocouple thermometer or the like... am curious as to how hot they run at your clocks

I have no idea if there is even a sensor for the mosfets, but the row of mosfets on the left of the cpu gets almost too hot to touch, with no active cooling, and just an hr-09u on it. With a breeze from a fan on it, it is still pretty warm, but I wouldnt say its anything to worry about.

The top row of mosfets dont get too hot.

The NB, if I remember right was 28c idle, 36c under load.

I am in the process of moving to a different case, so as soon as I get it all up and running, I'll measure them.

I can measure the mosfet temps with a probe at the base of the hr-09u if thats any use?

[Stele]

I have no idea if there is even a sensor for the mosfets, but the row of mosfets on the left of the cpu gets almost too hot to touch, with no active cooling, and just an hr-09u on it. With a breeze from a fan on it, it is still pretty warm, but I wouldnt say its anything to worry about.

The top row of mosfets dont get too hot.

The NB, if I remember right was 28c idle, 36c under load.

I am in the process of moving to a different case, so as soon as I get it all up and running, I'll measure them.

I can measure the mosfet temps with a probe at the base of the hr-09u if thats any use?

There may or may not be thermistors placed near the MOSFETs and/or inductor coils, but those would most likely be only for connection to the ADP3198 PWM controller for the controller's thermal trip - no readable data beyond that.

What I meant was, if it was at all possible to trouble you to measure the temps of the said components, either with a thermal probe or an IR thermometer... since your motherboard is already in a case I was afraid that it'd be too much trouble for you to do so A probe at the base of the MOSFET heatsinks as you suggested would do nicely, thank you If you do take measurements, do note what the ambient temperature in your case is so that we can better approximate the temperature delta.

I had almost completely forgotten that you had replaced the standard heatpipe rig and heatsinks with HR-09s ... if those get too hot to touch I wonder what the standard heatsinks would be like

Thanks lots!

[Agrippa]

I make it;

319w for 1.6v

280w for 1.5v.

There is no safe voltage. Anything over stock can potentially increase the risk of damaging/killing your cpu, so its always a risk.

It does say 1.35v max on the box though

Bugger. Guess it's 175W at idle then. How exactly do you extrapolate/calculate max power draw from that?

[Thorburn]

I make it;

319w for 1.6v

280w for 1.5v.

That doesn't sound right to me

[Clunk]

Bugger. Guess it's 175W at idle then. How exactly do you extrapolate/calculate max power draw from that?

That doesn't sound right to me

Work it out for yourselves.

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/p...ulatorlite.jsp

Single processor.
High end desktop.
100% TDP

Use the "overclock my cpu" bit, enter the voltages that you require.

Admittedly, its not going to be spot on, but its a near as anthing else we have at the moment, unless you know of something else?